Financial markets reeling after France and Greece elections

Ludwig · Post by **Ludwig** » 10 May 2012, 20:41

Aurora wrote: In case you hadn't noticed H, my previous post WASN'T A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU.

Got it?

All your posts to him have sounded pretty personal to me.

Inside every hippy is a Daily Mail reader.

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 10 May 2012, 20:57

Ludwig wrote:
Aurora wrote: In case you hadn't noticed H, my previous post WASN'T A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU.

Got it?

All your posts to him have sounded pretty personal to me.

Inside every hippy is a Daily Mail reader.

Don't you 'effing start!

If you've ever read any of my previous posts, Ludwig, you'll have realised by now that my politics have always been somewhat left of centre. Daily Mail reader? Never!

I hold the highest degree of sympathy for anyone who finds themselves looking for work, especially in the current economic climate. I've been there myself in the early eighties - it was no fun.

I repeat, I was not attacking H on a personal level. How could I? I don't know him.

On the contrary, I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in his current predicament and would be the first to suggest that he should benefit from the welfare system until such time as he is able to make a contribution.

I trust I now make myself clear.

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 10 May 2012, 21:02

I must admit this beautiful song always comes to mind... when I think about the world that we created. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0XpW_Bo ... re=related

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 10 May 2012, 21:06

snow hope wrote:I must admit this beautiful song always comes to mind... when I think about the world that we created. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0XpW_Bo ... re=related

and when it comes to communication .....

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 10 May 2012, 21:17

stumuzz wrote:
snow hope wrote:. I even did it in a business meeting this morning - quite effective too.
Pray tell.

I sometimes mention ' resource depletion' in an indirect way.

Well as you asked...... I am involved on the periphery of a new renewable energy company who are at the advanced stage of raising a few million pounds to kick off an Air Source Heat pump business based in London and Belfast, with a pretty spectacular return of heat-out from energy-in. I can't go into details yet as the company will be launched in the next few weeks, but needless to say it is exciting and the CEO (who I met this morning) happens to be a very intelligent man that headed up a company I did some database development work for back in the 1990s - hence the connection.

He has asked me if I would like to become involved in a small way as well as to provide the IT input.

I didn't need asking twice.

Anyway, when discussing the project I mentioned that we have serious problems ahead regarding the price of electricity and all fossil fuels which makes his market even more attractive. I mentioned Peak Oil and the North Sea Oil and Gas decline since the peak back at the end of the 90's. We then went on to discuss the importance of sourcing products locally (in Ireland and the UK) and what components he may have to source offshore which gave me further room to mention the importance of localisation over globalisation, etc. etc. etc. It ended up being a very interesting 2 hour meeting and there was a lot of meeting of minds, which was great.

I did mention how much my word-view had changed since being a software developer/consultant back in the early 90s.

hodson2k9 · Post by **hodson2k9** » 10 May 2012, 21:26

snow hope wrote:
stumuzz wrote:
snow hope wrote:. I even did it in a business meeting this morning - quite effective too.
Pray tell.

I sometimes mention ' resource depletion' in an indirect way.
Well as you asked...... I am involved on the periphery of a new renewable energy company who are at the advanced stage of raising a few million pounds to kick off an Air Source Heat pump business based in London and Belfast, with a pretty spectacular return of heat-out from energy-in. I can't go into details yet as the company will be launched in the next few weeks, but needless to say it is exciting and the CEO (who I met this morning) happens to be a very intelligent man that headed up a company I did some database development work for back in the 1990s - hence the connection.

He has asked me if I would like to become involved in a small way as well as to provide the IT input. I didn't need asking twice.

Anyway, when discussing the project I mentioned that we have serious problems ahead regarding the price of electricity and all fossil fuels which makes his market even more attractive. I mentioned Peak Oil and the North Sea Oil and Gas decline since the peak back at the end of the 90's. We then went on to discuss the importance of sourcing products locally (in Ireland and the UK) and what components he may have to source offshore which gave me further room to mention the importance of localisation over globalisation, etc. etc. etc. It ended up being a very interesting 2 hour meeting and there was a lot of meeting of minds, which was great. I did mention how much my word-view had changed since being a software developer/consultant back in the early 90s.

Someones in a smiley mood

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 11 May 2012, 10:46

emordnilap wrote:Doctors/nurses and growers of food.

These are all we need to support, really.

Your share could be worked out quite easily.

Oh, I missed out teachers.

I'd support them, particularly if we could afford 1 per 10 students, say by never paying anyone a wage over £50,000.

extractorfan · Post by **extractorfan** » 11 May 2012, 10:48

not engineers? things will still need fixing / making / insulating / building.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 11 May 2012, 10:50

Ludwig wrote:Inside every hippy is a Daily Mail reader.

Don't you start! That is a real slur on Daily Mail readers.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 11 May 2012, 10:53

extractorfan wrote:not engineers? things will still need fixing / making / insulating / building.

Yes but they can choose to do these things and work in the free market, taking their chances.

The only things we should have to contribute to in any kind of 'compulsory' (wrong word) sense are health, sustenance and education.

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 11 May 2012, 11:05

emordnilap wrote: The only things we should have to contribute to in any kind of 'compulsory' (wrong word) sense are health, sustenance and education.

+ 100%.

This is the sort of expenditure that I certainly wouldn't wish to support:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18008171

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 11 May 2012, 11:26

Ah yes, the offence forces.

My suggestions are the defence forces.