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A Greek TV host has become the target of a massive egg-and-yoghurt attack carried out by leftist activists angry that he had invited a member of a neo-Nazi party onto his show the previous week.

­Panagiotis Vourhas was interviewing a local politician on Friday when a group of 17 intruders with their faces hidden behind handkerchiefs broke into the studio, Associated Press reports, citing private channel Epiros TV1.

The video from the Epiros TV1 shows the disgruntled presenter cleaning his laptop as protesters keep pelting him with eggs and yoghurt.

Last week, Vourhas invited a spokesman from the openly neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party onto his show. Its members have been accused of carrying out acts of violence and hate crimes against illegal immigrants, political opponents and ethnic minorities in Greece.

The ultra-nationalist party is credited with the support more than five per cent of voters in recent polls.
According to Greek translations on Youtube:

"TV Presenter "You all saw what happened, you see the scenery in the background, you see me. We have suffered an attack, we don't know how many of you watched it during the interview. We have suffered attack by hooded people with eggs and yogurts. Because in the past week during the show, we interviewed the representative of a Neo Nazi organisation, my partner and lover."
There's no shortage of eggs and yoghurt in Greece then? :wink:
Those Greek neo-Nazis must be a lot more tolerant than they used to be. Sounds like their spokesman is gay. Wouldn't have been allowed in Hitler's day.
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Reminds me of a programme I saw about the Miss UK contest and the rather sordid individual who revived it. One tactic was to hire a group to 'protest' about it outside TV offices, newspapers etc. sure enough they picked up the story :roll:

I suspect it was all stage managed, set security is usually pretty tight and most 'live' programmes are delayed by a couple of minutes so the plug can be pulled due to technical difficulties. 8)

Interesting points above about the pattern of reaction to immigrants. I wonder how peoples with a history of persecution in a Western enviroment feel??
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Turkish Weekly - 09/04/12

As Greece's Crisis Deepens, Society Changes

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Aurora wrote:
Turkish Weekly - 09/04/12

As Greece's Crisis Deepens, Society Changes

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And while pawnshops are open for business out on the streets, the battle for the buck rages on as immigrants -- most of them illegal -- push bent up supermarket carts and meticulously rummage through the trash day and night, looking for anything recyclable that can earn them a euro. It's a dirty job but still a job. Since few Greeks recycle, it's a "lucrative" choice. The going rate is anywhere between 12 and 18 cents per kilo for metal and 6 to 8 cents for electrical appliances.

Until a year ago, the Roma driving around in their old Datsun pickup trucks or tricycle cars were primarily the ones collecting discarded items, everything from furniture to old TV sets. But today, neighbourhood rubbish bins are marked territory, providing not only food scraps for the hungry but all sorts of recyclable matter for the city's scroungers, who usually "work" in pairs: one holding a pick and the other pushing the cart.

"I find all sorts of things but I want metal, anything, cans, old kitchen appliances, bottles," 22-year-old Hamid from Afghanistan told SETimes.

Hamid, who looks much older that he is, came to Greece seeking a better future but now realises his prospects are bleak. "I don't want to go back. I have nowhere to go. I have to make it here or leave for Europe," he said.
It is only a matter of time before every landfill in the UK is re-opened, and turned into a mine for metals (especially aluminium) and probably also plastics. Anything else combustible will be burned. If this is not done commercially by specialist companies then it will be done by individuals, by hand.
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Catweazle wrote:
JavaScriptDonkey wrote:So are the fascists the ones that are sitting down and talking or the ones that have broken in to private property and attacked the presenter? :?:

Foreign politics are so confusing.
I, too, find that eggs and yoghurt are confusingly similar to petrol-bombs and bricks.
I thought it was the pro-democracy anti-banker libertarians protesting in the streets that were throwing rocks and petrol bombs?

Now I'm really confused.
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A sign of things to come....for everyone?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17686384
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frank_begbie wrote:A sign of things to come....for everyone?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17686384
Undoubtedly, IMO. It's the obvious, immediate reaction both to a short-term monetary crisis, and long-term, structural economic problems.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
frank_begbie wrote:A sign of things to come....for everyone?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17686384
Undoubtedly, IMO. It's the obvious, immediate reaction both to a short-term monetary crisis, and long-term, structural economic problems.
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Totnes, Lewes, Brixton, Greece, Rest of the World.

Spot the odd one out.
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Helps avoid the taxman as well!!
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kenneal - lagger wrote:Helps avoid the taxman as well!!
Only because they're not widespread.
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This is more Irish than Greece, but it's all of a piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... CHu1kRT6hU

Klaus Masuch represents the ECB. A google search on Klaus Masuch reveals that this video has gone a bit viral.
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The Irish and Greek problems are somewhat different. Ireland had, in the main, a banking crisis while Greece has a government borrowing crisis. The two problems are being treated in the same way though, which is a bit unfortunate for the Irish people as they have profited in the run up to the crisis to a lesser extent. The Greek people are now paying for years of good living while successive governments bribed them for their votes.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:The Irish and Greek problems are somewhat different. Ireland had, in the main, a banking crisis while Greece has a government borrowing crisis. The two problems are being treated in the same way though, which is a bit unfortunate for the Irish people as they have profited in the run up to the crisis to a lesser extent.
I don't think that's true. Ireland enjoyed a massive property and service industry boom, and the population was, compared to previous times, absolutely loaded. Wiser commentators at the time were asking, "Where has all this wealth come from all of a sudden?"
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Agreed. Many Irish made fortunes on property... to suggest the Irish people haven't benefited from the housing boom, billions of EU aid and the rise of the service industries is a bit wrong.
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