The British family franticlly prepping for TEOTWAWKI

What changes can we make to our lives to deal with the economic and energy crises ahead? Have you already started making preparations? Got tips to share?

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teaching his kids, including nine-year-old daughter Lily, to HUNT and GUT animals
huh, I'll be teaching my boy to do this, weird how they put the words in BOLD as if to say WEIRD and SHOCKING, yet it happens every single day, en masse, in factory farming environments that would certainly rival the worst concentration camps of WWII.

Oh, but that's not wierd or shocking at all.

This sort of thing makes me depressed.
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Note that the families relatively modest food stocks are refered to as "hoarded".
Another reason to keep ones stocks private, so far as possible.

Todays prudent prepper is tomorrows hoarder.
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adam2 wrote:Note that the families relatively modest food stocks are refered to as "hoarded".
Another reason to keep ones stocks private, so far as possible.

Todays prudent prepper is tomorrows hoarder.
Indeed, all very strange:
So far they have amassed 20 tins of potatoes, 15 tins of carrots and peas, 15 tins of steak and kidney pie and 100 tins of beans.

They also have 12kg of pasta, sweets for the kids and their water store. They even have half a pig, which they slaughtered themselves, in their chest freezer.
These quantities aren't unusual are they? The cans and pasta a worth around £60? That's less than the value of a week's shop for a family of 4. And half a pig - what's that, 15kg so around £60 at £4/kg. There's simply no story here!
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Clv
I think you underestimate how many people cant survive three days without going shopping.
Not that I think they are anything but crazies.
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extractorfan wrote:[
huh, I'll be teaching my boy to do this, weird how they put the words in BOLD as if to say WEIRD and SHOCKING, yet it happens every single day, en masse, in factory farming environments that would certainly rival the worst concentration camps of WWII.

Oh, but that's not wierd or shocking at all.

This sort of thing makes me depressed.
Yes, same here.
Some of my meat-eating friends find the breeding, killing, plucking, gutting, cooking and then eating of my own chickens as barbaric. Much more civilised to buy an oven ready chicken from the supermarket.
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I'm just too lazy to pluck a chicken.
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DominicJ wrote:I'm just too lazy to pluck a chicken.
Which is fine, I also eat mass produced meat. Stuff killed from the wild and prepared yourself (I mean by myself) tastes better.

And it's natural, not weird or anything.
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nine-year-old daughter Lily has been taught to hunt and gut animals
Lucky Lily. Good skill to have. What's the problem?
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I did rabbit-skinning with my scout troop a while back (ages 10-14). I was fully anticipating some negative reaction, ranging from passing out through to "OMG, it looks just like Whiskers!". However, none of them batted an eyelid, they just got on with it, prepared their food, cooked it over the fire and ate it with gusto. Interestingly, out of 25, none of them were vegetarians.

I guess the skills are all there, buried in the DNA, waiting to be woken up and used again.
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Tarrel wrote:I did rabbit-skinning with my scout troop a while back (ages 10-14). I was fully anticipating some negative reaction, ranging from passing out through to "OMG, it looks just like Whiskers!". However, none of them batted an eyelid, they just got on with it, prepared their food, cooked it over the fire and ate it with gusto. Interestingly, out of 25, none of them were vegetarians.

I guess the skills are all there, buried in the DNA, waiting to be woken up and used again.
When I was young we used to get a couple now and again from a mate of my Dad. Still warm, and I picked up the skinning really quickly. One time I was taking the guts out to feed to the cat, neighbour leans over the fence, looks at the bucket of giblets, my bloody hands and remarks "Haven't seen your mum lately"
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After watching the video taken by animal rights activists on a UK pig farm recently, I don't feel so good about eating factory meat. A video on the same site of a Spanish pig farm was even worse, barbaric.
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8) The last time I had chickens to pluck we rented an electric chicken plucker. A plastic tub with a bunch of rubber fingers sticking in on the inside and a circular floor attached to the shaft of the motor also with fingers on it. Worked like a charm and saved hours of tedious work.
But to my point. why do they always focus on one highly unlikely disaster that the doomer is prepping for? If your prepared for one emergency your pretty well prepared for all of them. Any one calamity has a very small chance of coming to pass but in any given year there is a very reasonable chance that something bad will happen to you and yours so why not be at least moderately prepared to fend for yourself without assistance from others or the government.
How would you rate your chances of the following disasters befalling you and yours?;
1, Losing your job.
2, Your spouse losing their job
3, You getting too sick to go to work regularly
4, Getting laid off for the winter
5, An ice storm that knocks the electricity out
6, A snow storm that blocks the roads plus cuts the power
7 A flood
8, A fire that burns much of the neighborhood
9 A bank holiday
10 Hyper inflation
11, £10 per liter petrol
12 Riots and looting in your neighborhood.
The list goes on but would having a few provisions stockpiled not make any of these a little easier to muddle through?
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12 Riots and looting in your neighborhood.
If people knew you were prepping, it might be more likely the looters would be round to see you. :(
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vtsnowedin wrote:8) The last time I had chickens to pluck we rented an electric chicken plucker. A plastic tub with a bunch of rubber fingers sticking in on the inside and a circular floor attached to the shaft of the motor also with fingers on it. Worked like a charm and saved hours of tedious work.
But to my point. why do they always focus on one highly unlikely disaster that the doomer is prepping for? If your prepared for one emergency your pretty well prepared for all of them. Any one calamity has a very small chance of coming to pass but in any given year there is a very reasonable chance that something bad will happen to you and yours so why not be at least moderately prepared to fend for yourself without assistance from others or the government.
How would you rate your chances of the following disasters befalling you and yours?;
1, Losing your job.
2, Your spouse losing their job
3, You getting too sick to go to work regularly
4, Getting laid off for the winter
5, An ice storm that knocks the electricity out
6, A snow storm that blocks the roads plus cuts the power
7 A flood
8, A fire that burns much of the neighborhood
9 A bank holiday
10 Hyper inflation
11, £10 per liter petrol
12 Riots and looting in your neighborhood.
The list goes on but would having a few provisions stockpiled not make any of these a little easier to muddle through?
Agree entirely, a severe solar storm is most unlikely, and even more unlikely at a particular time as they appear to be expecting.
But food stocks and other preps are worthwhile for other and much more likely disasters.

(BTW a "bank holiday" is the UK term for most public holidays, and is nothing to remark on. In the USA, I believe that it refers to the closure of the banking system for days or longer as a result of actual or suspected insolvency. Last happened AFAIR in the 1930s. Some fear a repeat)
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adam2 wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:8) The last time I had chickens to pluck we rented an electric chicken plucker. A plastic tub with a bunch of rubber fingers sticking in on the inside and a circular floor attached to the shaft of the motor also with fingers on it. Worked like a charm and saved hours of tedious work.
But to my point. why do they always focus on one highly unlikely disaster that the doomer is prepping for? If your prepared for one emergency your pretty well prepared for all of them. Any one calamity has a very small chance of coming to pass but in any given year there is a very reasonable chance that something bad will happen to you and yours so why not be at least moderately prepared to fend for yourself without assistance from others or the government.
How would you rate your chances of the following disasters befalling you and yours?;
1, Losing your job.
2, Your spouse losing their job
3, You getting too sick to go to work regularly
4, Getting laid off for the winter
5, An ice storm that knocks the electricity out
6, A snow storm that blocks the roads plus cuts the power
7 A flood
8, A fire that burns much of the neighborhood
9 A bank holiday
10 Hyper inflation
11, £10 per liter petrol
12 Riots and looting in your neighborhood.
The list goes on but would having a few provisions stockpiled not make any of these a little easier to muddle through?
Agree entirely, a severe solar storm is most unlikely, and even more unlikely at a particular time as they appear to be expecting.
But food stocks and other preps are worthwhile for other and much more likely disasters.

(BTW a "bank holiday" is the UK term for most public holidays, and is nothing to remark on. In the USA, I believe that it refers to the closure of the banking system for days or longer as a result of actual or suspected insolvency. Last happened AFAIR in the 1930s. Some fear a repeat)
Rather worryingly I can tick off 1 to 4 inc, 6, 7 and 12 already. Maybe that's what started me down this road without realising at the time :? If that is so maybe things will alter a lot of other perceptions in time as well?
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