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What changes can we make to our lives to deal with the economic and energy crises ahead? Have you already started making preparations? Got tips to share?

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clv101 wrote:The world would be a better place were Ikea never to have existed
The free pencils aren't much good, either.
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clv101 wrote:
DominicJ wrote:Ikea is chip board, but even so, is remarkably well engineered.
Well, compared to the quality I'm used too.
It is possible to find furniture worse than Ikea - but not that easy! I've lived with more than my fair share of Ikea furniture over the years; the materials are always cheap and nasty, the engineering always rudimentary... The world would be a better place were Ikea never to have existed and for folk to have designed, built and bought a lower volume of higher quality furniture. The whole Ikea phenomena is a caricature of the wrong direction we've been heading for the last couple decades.
We refer to it as shitboard (you can say it in an ambiguous way). But real shit is far more useful.
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emordnilap wrote:We refer to it as shitboard (you can say it in an ambiguous way). But real shit is far more useful.
I've never been to Ikea, or owned any of their stuff, but I do find old chipboard furniture of the type MFI supply (or supplied, as I haven't been there for years!) useful. It's great for the hidden bits of built-in furniture, as long as you don't use the bits that have got damp!
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the_lyniezian wrote:John goes one better and builds furniture from old scrap wood
The scrap wood is running out! Next stage is trees (waiting for man with chainsaw mill to come), clom (cob to those of you in England), stone, bottles, and maybe old bricks from a possible brick mine! Meanwhile I can start collecting more scrap wood!
You can often pick up free wood from recycling plants (not where you dump the stuff, but where they collect, sort and process it). Some site manager require you to produce a waste disposal licence, which can be bought for about £130 for 3 years.
What a shame, seemed quite promising, this human species.
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I went to the an Ikea store once. It was the size of an aircraft hanger, and so full of people that my (then) 4yo had a panic attack.

(Actually, my wife says it was me that panicked, and my 4yo that reacted to me ).
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clv101 wrote: It is possible to find furniture worse than Ikea - but not that easy! I've lived with more than my fair share of Ikea furniture over the years; the materials are always cheap and nasty, the engineering always rudimentary... The world would be a better place were Ikea never to have existed and for folk to have designed, built and bought a lower volume of higher quality furniture. The whole Ikea phenomena is a caricature of the wrong direction we've been heading for the last couple decades.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion I suppose, but I have some Ikea chests of drawers from about 10 years ago, they are quite reasonable materials and quality. I also have some small office storage drawers made from birch plywood. I wish I could get lots more of them, they are brilliant for storing all sorts of things.
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We bought one of their sofas, and the place we went to was just as you described. I said I would never set foot in an ikea ever again.
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SWMBO started banging on about going there a while back. I said "sure, why not, get what you want, the car keys are on the shelf, when will you be back?"

It was never mentioned again :D
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featherstick wrote:SWMBO started banging on about going there a while back. I said "sure, why not, get what you want, the car keys are on the shelf, when will you be back?"

It was never mentioned again :D
Worked for me as well. Shortly after she went out and didn't come back :lol:

Ikea roll mop herrings are nice :D
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