A (missile) blast from the past?

[DominicJ]

Not with even remotely politically acceptable US loses. Any 'taking' of Iran would likely cost many thousand US causalities. There's no appetite for that in the US after the last decade's discredited conflicts.

They said the same about Iraq and Afghanistan and Iraq and Yugoslavia and.
The US can kill Basiji far far faster than Iran can breed them. It wont be the first time AC-130s have beaten back human waves....


Its funny how despite having this "encirclement" sewn up for 20 odd years, the US has yet to carry out its a diabolical scheme of invading Iran

[hodson2k9]

I posted a map thats similiar a while ago www.powerswitch.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19841

[hodson2k9]

Iran is there for the taking really.

Not with even remotely politically acceptable US loses. Any 'taking' of Iran would likely cost many thousand US causalities. There's no appetite for that in the US after the last decade's discredited conflicts.

Maybe theres not in the US but that dont really matter as the US doesnt make the choices, if israel (home to TPTB) want war (which they will) then there be war, just take the 2 following quotes for example:

“You know very well, and the stupid
Americans know equally well, that we
control their government, irrespective
of who sits in the White House. You
see, I know it and you know it that no
American president can be in a
position to challenge us even if we do
the unthinkable. What can they
(Americans) do to us? We control
congress, we control the media, we
control show biz, and we control
everything in America. In America
you can criticize God, but you can’t
criticize Israel…”
-Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora
Menache

“Every time we do something you tell
me America will do this and will do
that . . . I want to tell you something
very clear: Don’t worry about American
pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish
people, control America, and
theAmericans know it.”
Israel pm at the time sharon

Both quotes got no reply from america,.

[hodson2k9]

It is a final grab for the resources required for a super-power to continue their way of life for another few years

imo its more than just resources, not really sure what though, a war would be a good way to cover up the collapsing economy i suppose, which in turn stops the people waking up, who knows the real reasons behind, it dont really matter i suppose, ww3 will be the outcome eitherway, and even if china and russia were not to join in (which they will), iran is no iraq, there not to be taken lightly.

[DominicJ]

Grrr
How exactly would Russia and China "join in" exactly?
They might whine at the UN, but fight?
With what?
They couldnt move an army to Iran, much less supply one there.

[biffvernon]

I still think that any serious attack on Iran (never mind being utterly unjustifiable) would close the Strait of Hormuz, stop a big chunk of the world's oil supply and end the global economic enterprise within weeks. Israel would go down with the rest of us.

[Ludwig]

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[hodson2k9]

Grrr
How exactly would Russia and China "join in" exactly?
They might whine at the UN, but fight?
With what?
They couldnt move an army to Iran, much less supply one there.

ok maybe they wouldnt join in exactly, but imo it would eventually lead to a global war.

[hodson2k9]

Grrr
How exactly would Russia and China "join in" exactly?
They might whine at the UN, but fight?
With what?
They couldnt move an army to Iran, much less supply one there.

ok maybe they wouldnt join in exactly, but imo it would eventually lead to a global war.

www.zerohedge.com/news/china-will-not-h ... -world-war

also china and america are headed for there own war anyway, theres been increasing tension between the 2 for a while now especially over taiwan.

[hodson2k9]

I still think that any serious attack on Iran (never mind being utterly unjustifiable) would close the Strait of Hormuz, stop a big chunk of the world's oil supply and end the global economic enterprise within weeks. Israel would go down with the rest of us.

that must be what they want then.

[hodson2k9]

I still think that any serious attack on Iran (never mind being utterly unjustifiable) would close the Strait of Hormuz, stop a big chunk of the world's oil supply and end the global economic enterprise within weeks

www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/west-p ... z-1.405955

[Ludwig]

Its funny how despite having this "encirclement" sewn up for 20 odd years, the US has yet to carry out its a diabolical scheme of invading Iran

Speaking of the diabolical, Google "obama devil sign" and "ahmadinejad devil sign" for a possible explanation

[hodson2k9]

Its funny how despite having this "encirclement" sewn up for 20 odd years, the US has yet to carry out its a diabolical scheme of invading Iran

obviously there not ready to strike yet then, things like this are planned well in advance.

[biffvernon]

I still think that any serious attack on Iran (never mind being utterly unjustifiable) would close the Strait of Hormuz, stop a big chunk of the world's oil supply and end the global economic enterprise within weeks

www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/west-p ... z-1.405955

...the West has readied plans to use strategic oil stocks to replace almost all Gulf oil lost if Iran blocks the waterway, industry sources and diplomats told Reuters.

They said senior executives of the International Energy Agency (IEA) discussed on Thursday an existing plan to release up to 14 million barrels per day (bpd) of government-owned oil stored in the United States, Europe, Japan and other importers.

This rate of release could be kept up for a month, offsetting most of the 16 million barrels a day of crude passing through the world's most important shipping lane that could be halted by an Iranian blockade.

Like I said, a few weeks.

[RenewableCandy]

Yeah, a few weeks of olde stock.

Then what??