When did you first learn of peak oil?
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- RenewableCandy
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+1RenewableCandy wrote:Because it's a killer line at a party. The fact political groups and soirees have the same word in English describing them is no coincidence. Both involve having to be popular.
great insight in the matt savinar document, he says, you can't count on any leader to emerge with a solution to peak oil. "their plan is to kill us or let us die"
"The stone age didn't end for a lack of stones"... correct, we'll be right back there.
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The significant point in my life was when I went back to work on the PO counter after maternity leave and found myself with queues to the door because of the issue of petrol coupons due to the deteriorating situation in the Middle East. This really made me think seriously about our dependence on oil.
That was in 1973. In 1980 we struggled to buy our current smallholding and have tried to live as sustainably as we could. We've made mistakes and had setbacks. In many respects we have felt somewhat isolated at times.
We were unaware of the presence of like minded people at that time and were latecomers to the internet.
That was in 1973. In 1980 we struggled to buy our current smallholding and have tried to live as sustainably as we could. We've made mistakes and had setbacks. In many respects we have felt somewhat isolated at times.
We were unaware of the presence of like minded people at that time and were latecomers to the internet.
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Growing fruit, nuts, vegetables and a variety of trees for coppicing.
First heard of PO in 2004 - read LATOC first page and "got it" all as I read.
Remember being told in Geography class at school in 1975 that we had 30 years of oil left. Remember thinking how will we drive then..... ahh, the innocense.....
Just had a 1 hour chat with my 19yo and we discussed a few important truths such as PO, decline, future standard of living, war, American Foreign Policy, over-population, etc. Many of these subjects he raised! My attiutude has always been they deserve to know the truth as I can best determine it.
Remember being told in Geography class at school in 1975 that we had 30 years of oil left. Remember thinking how will we drive then..... ahh, the innocense.....
Just had a 1 hour chat with my 19yo and we discussed a few important truths such as PO, decline, future standard of living, war, American Foreign Policy, over-population, etc. Many of these subjects he raised! My attiutude has always been they deserve to know the truth as I can best determine it.
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Early '70s Open University maths lecture on BBC2.
I saw it I guess in the early 80s and initially I was simply amused by the lecturer, who looked a complete hippie. IIRC he was appplying some equations (Hubbert linearisation?) to coal extraction in Great Britain, but mentioned that all geological resources folllow roughly the same mathematical curve, no matter how much effort is put into increasing extraction rates during the decline phase.
I found it hard to accept this fact, but I realized later in my engineering studies that mathematical proofs given by university lecturers are generally pretty water tight.
Anybody else here remember seeing that old broadcast?
I saw it I guess in the early 80s and initially I was simply amused by the lecturer, who looked a complete hippie. IIRC he was appplying some equations (Hubbert linearisation?) to coal extraction in Great Britain, but mentioned that all geological resources folllow roughly the same mathematical curve, no matter how much effort is put into increasing extraction rates during the decline phase.
I found it hard to accept this fact, but I realized later in my engineering studies that mathematical proofs given by university lecturers are generally pretty water tight.
Anybody else here remember seeing that old broadcast?