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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/why-uk-tr ... anks-jeffe
The volume and level of re-hypothecation suggests a frightening alternative hypothesis for the current liquidity crisis being experienced by banks and for why regulators around the world decided to step in to prop up the markets recently.


That's precisely right: the shadow banking system, so aptly named because its death rattle can never be seen out in the open, is slowly dying. As noted yesterday. But lest we be accused of hyperventilating, this time we will leave a respected, non-fringe media to bring out the big adjective guns:

To date, reports have been focused on how Eurozone default concerns were provoking fear in the markets and causing liquidity to dry up....Most have been focused on how a Eurozone default would result in huge losses in Eurozone bonds being felt across the world’s banks. However, re-hypothecation suggests an even greater fear. Considering that re-hypothecation may have increased the financial footprint of Eurozone bonds by at least four fold then a Eurozone sovereign default could be apocalyptic.



U.S. banks direct holding of sovereign debt is hardly negligible. According to the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), U.S. banks hold $181 billion in the sovereign debt of Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal and Spain. If we factor in off-balance sheet transactions such as re-hypothecations and repos, then the picture becomes frightening.
Got to admit, struggled to read that article... however the gist I think is that banks are not only facing losses on eurozone bonds, but the massive leveraged positions of these bonds, so a default by Greece would trigger gigantic trillion dollar levels of losses throughout the global financial system.

In any normal situation this would lead to the bankruptsy of the financial system, but in this event, the central banks would move in and flood the banks with trillions of newly printed money to 'recaptialise' the bankrupt banks.

Of course, this will drive the debasing of national currencies even more and lead to the explosive hyperinfation nearer.
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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/dec20 ... -d13.shtml
Little has been said about the implications of the measures agreed at last week’s European Union (EU) summit for the working class. The media focused almost exclusively on Prime Minister David Cameron’s wielding of Britain’s veto.

This virtual silence on the implications of the inter-governmental treaty now being drawn up underscores the contempt of Europe’s media and ruling elite for working people. The treaty measures presage a massive destruction of jobs, living standards and social services on which millions depend, as all of Europe is transformed into one giant austerity zone.

The treaty has been described as a plan for “slave states” inside the euro zone. More accurately, it is the blueprint for enslaving Europe’s workers, who are to be reduced to little more than indentured labour for the international financial oligarchy represented by the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund.
The logical outcome of this, assuming that the euro/EU survives (which I strongly doubt) is a enslaved neo-feudal mass of impoverished Europeans on Chinese wage levels whilst a brutal dictatorship of the Brussels eurocrats, German (and closet neo-Nazi?) bankers, their French Vichy underlyings and various local collaberationist ruling classes brutally suppress any opposition to this European Fourth Reich.

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Godwin's Law strikes again.
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I think we should just let the Euro die. If it survives through year after year of austerity then will it survive the aging population and peak oil?
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Trouble now is that when it dies they'll all blame us, thanks to Mr Cameron.
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biffvernon wrote:Trouble now is that when it dies they'll all blame us, thanks to Mr Cameron.
Well they could have done that all along, if it had happened in 2008-2009 due to the recession or other means the London stock exchange or Britain not adopting the Euro could have been blamed for being a major part in the disaster. They would just have a more visible scapegoat this time around. At least thats how I see it.
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So we should have spent billions on a plan that was never going to work and would only make things worse, so that we dont get the blame?

Read up on Maos Great Leap Forward.
They kept goping long after it was proven to be a failure, because they didnt want to look stupid, millions died.
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If the euro does collapse, i suspect the bulk of Europe would have shifted the blame game to Germany which refused to play that old European solidarity crap any longer.

Don't worry, Cameron will be long forgotten.
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DominicJ wrote:So we should have spent billions on a plan that was never going to work and would only make things worse, so that we dont get the blame?

Read up on Maos Great Leap Forward.
They kept goping long after it was proven to be a failure, because they didnt want to look stupid, millions died.
If you were responding to my post with that then I'll say you missed the point I was making. I was suggesting what Germany and France potentially could have found fault with Britain for, I never suggested in any shape or form that we should have adopted the Euro.
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For some time I have taken the view that rescuing eurozone governments from their financial crises was too big a job for the European Central Bank, which should stick to keeping the banking system going. The only hope was that individual governments would be forced to face up to the reality of cutting government spending hard and quickly. They have failed to even begin to address this fundamental problem. As a consequence, it is now impossible for them to roll over their maturing debt, let alone raise new money. Instead there is now a scramble into cash as banks and hedge funds prepare themselves for sovereign defaults.

Posturing over geared stability funds, financial transaction taxes, installing unelected governments, putative treaty changes and finally enhanced fiscal supervision proposals have finally convinced markets that the only outcome is widespread government defaults. There is now no alternative and the fallout will have to be managed.

The inept handling of this crisis has weakened the eurozone’s banks to the point that they are unable to subscribe for more debt. Furthermore, the ECB cannot afford to see the liquidity it provides to European banks disappear into new government bonds that will default anyway. Therefore, it is now in the ECB’s interest to see sovereign defaults occur as soon as possible, unless the International Monetary Fund can come to the rescue, which is looking less likely by the day.

There is growing evidence that there is insufficient support for an IMF bailout from its member governments. The IMF’s charter is as an intergovernmental lender of last resort, not a supporter of government profligacy. Following the failure of the G20 meeting in mid-October there has been no substantive attempt to rescue the eurozone. The telephones might be buzzing, but there is no urgent meeting, suggesting that events must take their course.

So the quicker these defaults happen, the sooner the ECB can work with the national central banks to bail out the major Eurozone commercial banks. Once we accept this line of reasoning, we must think about the likely candidates. In no particular order they are France, Italy and Greece: France and Italy because they have to roll enormous amounts of debt in the coming months and Greece for obvious reasons. Less pressing perhaps but also likely default candidates are Belgium, Spain, Portugal and Ireland: Belgium might fall with France and the others have the potential to struggle through but might chose to wipe the slate clean. And when the first goes, the rest will surely follow rapidly.

The sequence of events is now under way. This will be followed by the defaults themselves, and the likely trigger will be escalating French government bond yields.

In summary, we have reached the point where the ECB’s vested interest requires eurozone governments to default because further delay will make the rescue of the currency and banking system more difficult. Expect co-ordination between the Bank for International Settlements, The Fed, Bank of England and Bank of Japan to smooth markets through the turmoil and to back up the ECB
I think this guy is right... the ECB just doesn't seem interesting in going the way of the Fed/Bank of England in printing vast amounts of money to bailout the PIGS. They way I look at it, the global financial players are now gearing for a wave of sovereign defaults which is why in the last few days you have seen a epic 'dash for cash' which is why even gold and silver have gone down hard.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-1 ... -says.html
Kyle Bass, the Dallas-based hedge fund manager who said in 2009 that governments would default within three years, said Greek, Portuguese and Spanish depositors will withdraw money from banks in the coming months.

“Just as Latvians ran to the ATMs this weekend, so will depositors all over peripheral Europe in the months ahead,” Bass, who runs Hayman Capital Management LP, said in an investor letter. “Deposits are now declining at an accelerated pace. What’s surprising is that it hasn’t happened much sooner.”
I think a euro collapse by April/May 2012 is quite likely.

Watch this space folks.
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Cascade failure imminent!
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Pesto wrote:Or to put it another way, unless a country like France is prepared to make a much greater sacrifice (for the good of the currency union) of its own government's budget-making powers than it currently seems prepared to do, it is quite hard to paint a rosy picture for the eurozone.
Good man. Blame the French :D
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Its interesting to note that the "treaty" Cameron Vetoed is now being shredded by even the french....
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