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jonny2mad wrote:lots of Irish migrated so will the africans :shock:
Migrate to where exactly? What country today has the empty unused land to feed a large immigration of starving population with no resources other then the will to survive?
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vtsnowedin wrote:Migrate to where exactly?
To the UK if possible, because we have a very good welfare payments system which is open to all and sundry for some unfathomable reason and they have many relatives already here and taking advantage of it. :roll: :evil:
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yup to the uk europe and the us or any formally first world country dumb enough to not shoot them out of the water .

Read the book camp of the saints, its available on archive.org you can play it like a audio book.

You have a fifth column of their relatives and people like biff here who will help them

To think there will be mass die-off in Africa and the third world without mass migrations into europe and the USA is loopy

and people with just the will to survive will intend taking those resources off you, we are the fat soft romans or roman subjects and they are the barbarians
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All are our relatives, though some people relate to each other better than others.
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:shock: see what I mean shakes head ...read camp of the saints biff wins in the book there are very few people who think like me, and thats likely to be how it will turn out
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:shock: actually thinking about it there are quite a lot of people in the book who think like me but they are black
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biffvernon wrote:All are our relatives, though some people relate to each other better than others.
Every living thing on Earth is "our relative"...
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:shock: in nature most animals compete with other animals for resources even with their own species .....

feels like he should link to some nature programs for you to watch but it would do no good

watch jaws we are related to sharks
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jonny2mad wrote::shock: in nature most animals compete with other animals for resources even with their own species .....

feels like he should link to some nature programs for you to watch but it would do no good

watch jaws we are related to sharks
Is this directed at me?

I've probably watched 80% of the nature programs ever broadcast on British TV, and that's not an exaggeration.
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no not directed to you at all
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Good background to Horn of Africa problem. Trees involved.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/09 ... -worse.php
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Your link has a photo of a bunch of Somalis gathering up firewood in what they are turning into a desert :shock:

Trees are involved as the innocent victims of the Somalis ignorance and bad management
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You have to read. Not just look at the picture ;)
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:shock: I did read but your picture summed it up, a desert caused by deforestation and people still out gathering wood and green wood with leaves on it with a dead animal in the foreground .

Oh and at least 5 children in the picture symbolic of the overshoot and overpopulation .

Also the pictures provided by oxfarm a western charity thats keeping a unnatural population of Somalis alive in that desert they have helped create, knowing full well that in the future without cheap fossil fuels we wont be able to support them, and the whole lot will die or migrate, thereby dragging down more communities.
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biffvernon wrote:You have to read. Not just look at the picture ;)
The production of charcoal for export has led to widespread deforestation in this nation situated in the horn of Africa, so it doesn't need a rocket scientist to put the pieces of the puzzle together to understand why there is this devastating drought on the land leading to this heart wrenching famine among the people.
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