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This is spooky...

Blackadder, Irish Setters, Skodas, Kenny Everett, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Pittsburgh, Ian Dury, Cup Cakes... All lead to Greeks or Philosophy in but a few mouse clicks. :shock: :D
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
JavaScriptDonkey wrote: Your grasp of probability lacks depth.
You really do like to patronise people, don't you?

Maybe your very high opinion of your own intelligence lacks depth? :roll:
Only when they are arrogantly wrong.

I have a very low opinion of my own knowledge - I know that I know nothing about a surprising number of things.

The 'depth' reference was about probability wells (or peaks if you're into quantum) in the search space.

Call it a nerd joke.

I take it you missed the reference?
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postie wrote: in your list you have Latin, which is contained in brackets.. and things in brackets should be ignored according to the rules. :?
Oh yes. You are right. I didn't spot that. Damn, another five minutes of life utterly wasted in futility.

So it gets to Philosophy after all.

But why?
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
JavaScriptDonkey wrote: Your grasp of probability lacks depth.
You really do like to patronise people, don't you?

Maybe your very high opinion of your own intelligence lacks depth? :roll:
Don't worry. His patronising comment was based on my bracketing error so now is revealed as vacuous.
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biffvernon wrote:
But why?
I'm guessing that because Wikipedia is a knowledge base, and the origin of knowledge and western culture is Greek Philosophy?
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Mean Mr Mustard wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
But why?
I'm guessing that because Wikipedia is a knowledge base, and the origin of knowledge and western culture is Greek Philosophy?
That was my take. Nothing to do with chance and a lot to do with wells in the search space. So much Western knowledge is based on Greek thought that eventually you fall into one of the wells in the otherwise flat space.

It's a bit like starting at any real positive integer (any wiki article), repeatedly adding -1 (click first non bracketed link) and feigning surprise when you always reach 0 (Greeks). It's gonna happen, it's just a question of when.
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JavaScriptDonkey wrote:
It's a bit like starting at any real positive integer (any wiki article), repeatedly adding -1 (click first non bracketed link) and feigning surprise when you always reach 0 (Greeks). It's gonna happen, it's just a question of when.
I'm seriously not taking the piss.. but can you put that in laymans? I'd love to know how it works...
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Tried this three times; the first two times I got into "language", where like others I got stuck; the third did indeed get me to "Philosophy" (in eleven).

Here is another attempt at a Law, which has worked twice for me (and that is the full extent of the empirical proof):

When you compare your record/CD/music download collection with somebody else's and you find you have only one album in common - That album will be Al Stewart's "The Year of the Cat".

Anybody want to help with some experiments?
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Keepz wrote:When you compare your record/CD/music download collection with somebody else's and you find you have only one album in common - That album will be Al Stewart's "The Year of the Cat".
It will not. Not a cat in hell's.
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Why stop at philosophy?
If you keep going, you end up in a reason, rationality, philosophy loop...
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emordnilap wrote:
Keepz wrote:When you compare your record/CD/music download collection with somebody else's and you find you have only one album in common - That album will be Al Stewart's "The Year of the Cat".
It will not. Not a cat in hell's.
I have around 2,000 records and Al Stewart does not figure among them.

However, there are others I could name that come up time and again among - take note - music lovers. For example, the compilation sold for 99p by Cherry Red Records, Pillows and Prayers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Red
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillows_%26_Prayers

This is *still* one of the best records I own. And when I find it in someone else's collection there is an amazing feeling.
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I met Al Stewart at a party circa 1970. Does that count?

'Al Stewart' has a Martin metric of 22, quite a high value. Why is Al Stewart so far away from philosophy?
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:)
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biffvernon wrote:Why is Al Stewart so far away from philosophy?
Irony indeed.
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