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http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/news/110311/i ... 0510_1.zip

This film has just been released by TEPCO. They seem to have got a camera into what was once the #3 reactor's spent fuel pond. Lurking somewhere under all that wreckage are many tons of the worst stuff you'd want to be near.
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Very resourceful, those Bangladeshis.

I wonder what the head of the recovery operation thinks about when he's resting at home. Answers on a postcard...
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Someone has put in on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KugIrnThul0


And while you're playing with Youtube hare's one of several that shows working practices in a Japanese nuclear power station.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Anjiin#p/u/15/1Dcg2_YGtZ0

Spot the H&S errors :)
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biffvernon wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/Anjiin#p/u/15/1Dcg2_YGtZ0

Spot the H&S errors :)
Hmmm, not entirely sure but isn't 4:56 a little bit iffy :wink:

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:shock: Nuts wasn't it.

However, some "good????" news.

Japan 'to review energy policy' over nuclear crisis
"The current basic energy policy envisages that over 50% of total electricity supply will come from nuclear power while more than 20% will come from renewable power in 2030," he said.

"But that basic plan needs to be reviewed now from scratch after this big incident."

"Better safety must be ensured in nuclear power while renewables need to be promoted."

He said greater focus would also be placed on ways of conserving energy, turning Japan into an "energy-saving society".
Some good sounding stuff in there, we'll see if big business and the civil-service dinosaurs screw it all up.
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kenneal wrote:Those films must be a lie! People don't die in the nuclear power industry! The Inspector told us so. And he knows, or at least he tells us he does! :shock: :twisted:
Nice try, but that's not what I claimed. There are deaths in nuclear power stations - far fewer than on windmills. In the western world these have all been related to the thermal operation of the plants. There have been no fatalities caused by nuclear radiation or contamination in the western world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_an ... _accidents

Now compare the tale of woe for windmills:
http://www.caithnesswindfarms.co.uk/fullaccidents.pdf
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Ippoippo wrote: Hmmm, not entirely sure but isn't 4:56 a little bit iffy :wink:
This is what someone on Physicsforums wrote about that film:
I see stuff in that third video that would never fly on a regular construction site. There's one guy who at a point straddles a pulley chain. Some other idiot climbs on the actual container, which is hanging above a two story drop mind you, to remove a hook. A bit after, someone comes from behind the idiot (who's still standing at the lip of the opening, beyond the guardrail) and removes the cable from his safety belt.

During all this, the container they're moving has no lid on... these guys must be selected for demonstrated stupidity, 'cause otherwise they'd realize it's shining out the top as well. Eventually it dawns on them that maybe something ain't quite right so they do the bit with the lead and the hammers. Comedy gold.

Also, where are the counters? I see one on the guy with the camera, one on the guy with the steel neuticles who goes to take contact readings, one hanging on a wall somewhere out of the way and that's all she wrote.

Apparently, one counter per work crew is standard industry practice, not something that only happens in emergencies? Sucks to be them, wouldn't work there for a million bucks a day
Of course Japan does not count as the 'west' but one's death count from the nuclear industry needs to viewed in the light of the films linked to earlier:

Links to Part 1 and Part 2
http://wemustknow.net/2011/03/nuclear-g ... -industry/

Link to Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... gLUTKxItt4
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biffvernon wrote:
Of course Japan does not count as the 'west'.
It does in the statement I made above and is covered in the Wiki accident tables. West was meant solely to exclude Russia (and, thus, Chernobyl where, as we all know, 53 people died in a nuclear accident)

Did I miss the bit in the video where a worker(s) died? What we can't see, because they're wearing contamination clothing coveralls, is whether they're carrying individual dosimeter badges; I'd be surprised if they weren't.
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No, they did not film anyone dying.
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biffvernon wrote:And while you're playing with Youtube hare's one of several that shows working practices in a Japanese nuclear power station.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Anjiin#p/u/15/1Dcg2_YGtZ0

Spot the H&S errors :)
Spot the piss-take!
I get the feeling that this is either some sort of training video - the spot the mistakes type, or a spoof.
  • It's very strange that the crash hats have no company logo.
    It's very strange that the coveralls have no company logo, nor name tags.
    Some of the errors are simply daft. Where did they find the scissor jacks to locate the 'filter' in the box?
    Why is the box such a silly shape to hold the filter?
    Aren't all the workers thin and young - wonder why that is?
    Note the number of incorrect crane hand signals - obviously deliberate.
And then, Japan doesn't have an operating ATR. The last one, at Fugen, closed in 2003.
And strangely, some of the same rooms appear in his videos for both the ATR and Japan's Boiling Water Reactor A - even that troublesome filter makes multiple appearances. As do those employees in blue crash hats with no logo!

You've been had.
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Ilargi said:

Stoneleigh has done a lot of thorough digging lately and emerges with an epic portrait of Japan and its nuclear industry that few if any of us who read it will ever forget. It is as shocking and devastating as it is, frankly, from a western point of view, utterly insane. The combination of the perils of modern science and an at heart still almost entirely feudal society is for many Japanese a very unhappy one, and deadly too. Don't miss this.

http://theautomaticearth.blogspot.com/2 ... llage.html
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An Inspector Calls wrote:
It's very strange that the crash hats have no company logo.
It's very strange that the coveralls have no company logo, nor name tags.
Aren't all the workers thin and young - wonder why that is?
Note the number of incorrect crane hand signals - obviously deliberate
From Stoneleigh's report referenced above, it would appear that you don't get to become fat and old, or experienced, as an expendable temp contract worker.
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Well, it's strange then that the culture of Japanese manufacturing plants is held up as a shining example of openess and inclusiveness in many MBA courses and MBA course materials. Japanese work practises and ethics are held to be the sort of system that would be of benefit if copied in western culture.

Must be a different Japan to the one Stoneleigh portrays.

Or perhaps Stoneleigh has an agenda?

Or all those texts are wrong - or lying - yes that'll be it.
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We had an acquaintance who worked in Japan for a year and she was not impressed by their work practices. The most important involved sucking up to the boss; getting in before he did and not leaving until he had even if you had nothing to do, which was the case for many!
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