Sea Level rise is slowing down! Another failed proxy?

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 May 2011, 12:10

vtsnowedin wrote:Plymouth Harbor, yours or mine,

Yours or mine? What? You've got your very own Plymouth Harbour. Americans must be crazy.

Post by **clv101** » 08 May 2011, 12:16

Indeed, our American friends do indeed have their own!
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vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 08 May 2011, 13:31

biffvernon wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:Plymouth Harbor, yours or mine,
Yours or mine? What? You've got your very own Plymouth Harbour. Americans must be crazy.

That has been said often enough but I think my ancestor's were more then a bit homesick for Merry Ole England when the set about naming places here. Chelsea, Norwich, Tunbridge, Manchester, Vershire, Londonderry all used sometimes more then once with Indian names like Winooski and Connecticut mixed in. About the only name not used nearby is Liverpool.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 May 2011, 15:44

Vershire? I don't think we've any of them.

Anyway, what's Plymouth got to do with sea level? We measure it at Newlyn.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 08 May 2011, 17:18

Thanks, Inspector, for showing us that graph showing that Antarctic ice, as with Arctic ice, is running at below average levels this year. Do you have a trend graph to see whether or not this is part of a long term trend as it is in the Arctic?

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 May 2011, 18:39

Careful, the Antarctic sea ice behaves quite differently to the Arctic. It certainly can't be expected to act as the same sort of global temperature proxy.

An Inspector Calls · Post by **An Inspector Calls** » 08 May 2011, 19:16

biffvernon wrote:Careful, the Antarctic sea ice behaves quite differently to the Arctic. It certainly can't be expected to act as the same sort of global temperature proxy.

Oh really? There has to be some explanation of why the Antarctic sea ice anomaly is running year after year close to zero. And there was me thinking this was GLOBAL warming! You're not saying that sea ice is also a poor proxy for global warming are you?

biffvernon wrote:In fact that was the day job I had in mind that the inspector interpreted as running down to the high tide line to measure where exactly it is from day to day.

You're getting fuddled: that was RGR's hilarious job description for clv101.

kenneal wrote:Thanks, Inspector, for showing us that graph showing that Antarctic ice, as with Arctic ice, is running at below average levels this year [but in 2010 wasn't]. Do you have a trend graph to see whether or not this is part of a long term trend as it is in the Arctic?

Happy to oblige. As you can see, the Antarctic ain't like the Arctic

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biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 May 2011, 20:13

An Inspector Calls wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Careful, the Antarctic sea ice behaves quite differently to the Arctic. It certainly can't be expected to act as the same sort of global temperature proxy.
Oh really? There has to be some explanation of why the Antarctic sea ice anomaly is running year after year close to zero.

Yes there is an explanation. Too obvious to bother explaining here. Go look it up if you want to be informed. Don't if you wish to stay ignorant.

Yeah, getting you and RGR mixed up is all too easy a mistake to make. Sometimes I wonder if you two are not the same person.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 08 May 2011, 22:21

Nah. RGR at least has the redeeming feature of occasionally being entertaining.

An Inspector Calls · Post by **An Inspector Calls** » 09 May 2011, 09:02

biffvernon wrote:
An Inspector Calls wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Careful, the Antarctic sea ice behaves quite differently to the Arctic. It certainly can't be expected to act as the same sort of global temperature proxy.
Oh really? There has to be some explanation of why the Antarctic sea ice anomaly is running year after year close to zero.
Yes there is an explanation. Too obvious to bother explaining here.

Oh I'm sure you or one of your chums will be along shortly to give me chapter and verse, possibly with a little cartoon or perhaps some hilarious lavatorial quip.