Nuclear accident follows Japanese earthqauke

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 29 Mar 2011, 11:46

The government seems to be making rather a big deal of the 'mistaken' radioactivity reading. It seems a bit harsh. A worker got a very high reading and did the only sensible thing. Scarpered. He is being blamed for not hanging about to take a second reading to check the first.

There seems to be surprise as to all the radioactive water being found. They've been dropping bucket loads by helicopters and then spraying far more from fire engines. That water, after washing the wreckage, has to go somewhere. Is it really such a surprise?

The idea that TEPCO could be nationalised is interesting. We know that our nuclear industry doesn't carry public liability insurance covering nuclear disasters. Nationalisation shows that responsibility lies ultimately with government not private enterprise.

2 As and a B · Post by **2 As and a B** » 29 Mar 2011, 11:58

Ah, but in Japan it is accompanied by harakiri. Isn't it?

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 29 Mar 2011, 13:40

The Independent - 29/03/11

Low levels of radioactive iodine believed to be from the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan have been detected in the UK.

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Sepa) said an air sampler in Glasgow had picked up the particles which they believe could be from the plant.

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biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 29 Mar 2011, 14:08

Collection of photos from Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/sl ... 2KAAL#a=39

2 As and a B · Post by **2 As and a B** » 29 Mar 2011, 14:09

Japan works to stop radioactive water leaking into sea

I've got news for them. Water goes into the sea. It's what it does.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 29 Mar 2011, 14:11

Aurora wrote:
The Independent - 29/03/11

Low levels of radioactive iodine believed to be from the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan have been detected in the UK.

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Sepa) said an air sampler in Glasgow had picked up the particles which they believe could be from the plant.

Article continues ...

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Jealously, that?s all it is. Japan and Libya have been getting all the attention these last few weeks and Scotland just couldn?t deal with not getting a look in. Besides who the hell can take a man in a skirt seriously? Oh dear, what is that I see on the horizon? Is it some kind of strange firestorm in a skirt? Has the radiation transformed a McDonald into a super hero?

Surely this is one of the problems with nuclear. A country can choose to use nuclear power, but other countries across the world don't have a choice about receiving contamination from it, whether or not it's harmful. Renewables and smaller scale energy generation have mostly localised effects. I know this opens even bigger cans of worms about climate change and pollution!

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 29 Mar 2011, 16:58

JohnB wrote:
Aurora wrote:
The Independent - 29/03/11

Low levels of radioactive iodine believed to be from the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan have been detected in the UK.

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Sepa) said an air sampler in Glasgow had picked up the particles which they believe could be from the plant.

Article continues ...
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Jealously, that?s all it is. Japan and Libya have been getting all the attention these last few weeks and Scotland just couldn?t deal with not getting a look in. Besides who the hell can take a man in a skirt seriously? Oh dear, what is that I see on the horizon? Is it some kind of strange firestorm in a skirt? Has the radiation transformed a McDonald into a super hero?
Surely this is one of the problems with nuclear. A country can choose to use nuclear power, but other countries across the world don't have a choice about receiving contamination from it, whether or not it's harmful. Renewables and smaller scale energy generation have mostly localised effects. I know this opens even bigger cans of worms about climate change and pollution!

If you're going to make this argument about nuclear power, then you have to say the same thing about all sorts of other things. The UK has (or once had) a thriving industrial economy which produced vast amounts of sulphur pollution. Due to the prevailing south-westerlies, a lot of it ended up falling as acid rain in the pristine Scandinavian countryside, killing trees and poisoning lakes.

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 29 Mar 2011, 17:38

The Guardian - 29/03/11

Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor

Fukushima meltdown fears rise after radioactive core melts through vessel – but 'no danger of Chernobyl-style catastrophe'

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Richard Lahey, who was head of safety research for boiling-water reactors at General Electric when the company installed the units at Fukushima, said:

"It won't come out as one big glob; it'll come out like lava, and that is good because it's easier to cool."

Oh, that's OK then.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 29 Mar 2011, 17:56

UndercoverElephant wrote:If you're going to make this argument about nuclear power, then you have to say the same thing about all sorts of other things. The UK has (or once had) a thriving industrial economy which produced vast amounts of sulphur pollution. Due to the prevailing south-westerlies, a lot of it ended up falling as acid rain in the pristine Scandinavian countryside, killing trees and poisoning lakes.

That's why I mentioned the can of worms. We should know better by now, and some of these problems have been cleaned up. Why add to the problem just because it started in the past when less was known about such things?

nexus · Post by **nexus** » 29 Mar 2011, 17:56

Quote:
The Independent - 29/03/11

Low levels of radioactive iodine believed to be from the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan have been detected in the UK.

The Scottish Environment Protection Agency (Sepa) said an air sampler in Glasgow had picked up the particles which they believe could be from the plant.

Article continues ..

Are our Adam2 and his geiger counter picking anything up? or are the levels so low they won't register?

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 29 Mar 2011, 18:02

He's gone a bit quiet. I don't know about you, but I find that worrying...

nexus · Post by **nexus** » 29 Mar 2011, 18:25

.... umm, yes...

Totally_Baffled · Post by **Totally_Baffled** » 29 Mar 2011, 19:46

Don't mean to spread panic or alarm but .....

Japanese Radiation detected in Glasgow!!

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 29 Mar 2011, 19:48

Totally_Baffled wrote:Don't mean to spread panic or alarm but .....

Japanese Radiation detected in Glasgow!!

We've done that

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Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 29 Mar 2011, 22:11

Latest roundup from The Guardian - 22.00pm - 29/03/11

Japan nuclear plant gets help from US robots

Obama administration sends shipment of robots to help regain control over stricken Fukushima nuclear plant.

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Fukushima disaster causes fallout for nuclear industry worldwide

Nick Clegg says coalition will be unable to subsidise nuclear energy should current uncertainty cause investors to pull away.

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Japanese officials consider cell transplants for nuclear workers

Frozen blood stem cells could save workers' lives if they become ill after exposure to high levels of radiation.

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