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Farm shops at Hackney City Farm and Hulme Garden Centre in Manchester for starters. (Coincidentally, the also both have cob ovens)

Lidl's orange juice tastes very good. It's the only one we buy and we've got about 60 cartons in our cellar. Their virgin olive oil and golden rum are also good along with some other stuff.

TV is still the opiate of the masses and the government are paying the army quite well so they don't need the police quite so much.
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kenneal wrote:TV is still the opiate of the masses and the government are paying the army quite well so they don't need the police quite so much.
There are around 160,000 police officers in the UK (well, ONS says 167,174 in 2006 of which 130,000 are constables).

According to Wikipedia, this compares with a British army of:
108,970 Regular
33,130 Territorial Army
...and a reserve force of 134,190 Regular

It would seem that the army do pretty much have the man power to do the 'control' aspect of the police's role. I imagine it would take weeks to mobilise back in the UK though, and a significant number might go AWOL if given police duties in a 'revolutionary' environment.
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ziggy12345 wrote:
Totally_Baffled wrote:...After all you can get a weekly shop in lidl for about 30p, but it tastes like crap! :) :lol:
I have shopped at Lidel for the last few years and the food is great. Pork is better quality than other shops and the chickens dont have the burn marks on the feet like the ones on Sainsbury to show its been living in it own shit all its life.

I normally stick to the basics, tomatoes, cheese, cold meats etc... The jars of skinned red peppers are a bargain. For other stuff I go to the local butchers and the local green grocers.

Lidel also sell a range of gourmet food such as lobsters, specialty pasta etc..Also cheaper than most.

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Hi Ziggy

My bad, I have never actually bought anything from Lidl, I was being a bit presumptious. :)

They are cheap though! (they pop leaflets through the door with the free local paper)
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JohnB wrote:
Aurora wrote:With TS about to HTF, you'd think HMG would be trying to maintain what's left of any morale within the police forces.
Does that mean they'll be on our side, come the revolution?
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JohnB wrote:
Aurora wrote:With TS about to HTF, you'd think HMG would be trying to maintain what's left of any morale within the police forces.
Does that mean they'll be on our side, come the revolution?
What's "our side"? Who will we be fighting? What will we be demanding?

Most likely IMO, the new, underpaid, undersupervised police will take advantage of their power to take things from the rest of us. That's the way it works in most poor countries, especially ones where the police don't get paid. Who are we gonna complain to?
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Aurora wrote:
featherstick wrote:To be fair, she actually talks about "social unrest", not "food riots".

I can't believe the ConDems have proposed cutting coppers' pay, on a slightly different note...
+1. With TS about to HTF, you'd think HMG would be trying to maintain what's left of any morale within the police forces.
This is the problem when the state has no money: it can't afford to do the things that need doing. It's not really rocket science.
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No doubt the planned ineffectiveness of the police service will be used as justification for more private security, both by the state and by individuals.
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emordnilap wrote:No doubt the planned ineffectiveness of the police service will be used as justification for more private security, both by the state and by individuals.
That's exactly what Mrs Catweazle said last week, she suggested that privately owned estates might soon be erecting fences and introducing a levy towards security.
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Catweazle wrote:
emordnilap wrote:No doubt the planned ineffectiveness of the police service will be used as justification for more private security, both by the state and by individuals.
That's exactly what Mrs Catweazle said last week, she suggested that privately owned estates might soon be erecting fences and introducing a levy towards security.
No doubt about this in my mind. It will be like South Africa, where literally every middle class home is surrounded by iron spikes and guarded (remotely) by a private security firm.
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Gated Communities already exist, there arent lots, but there are some.
For houses.
For Flats, is well easy
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