Libya

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 22 Feb 2011, 20:06

foodimista wrote:
DominicJ wrote:When was the decision made that the UK should take military action to support the rebellion?
What military action are you referring to Dom?

Enforcing the proposed no fly zone is an act of war.
Actualy bombing Ghadaffis troops even more so.

Mean Mr Mustard · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard** » 22 Feb 2011, 20:27

DominicJ wrote:
foodimista wrote:
DominicJ wrote:When was the decision made that the UK should take military action to support the rebellion?
What military action are you referring to Dom?
Enforcing the proposed no fly zone is an act of war.
Actualy bombing Ghadaffis troops even more so.

As a civil population is being attacked, I guess Kosovo would be the precedent. So first, you'll need a UN resolution, and then NATO to get it together. Better to offer the air fare to send a retinue to Caracas, along with a modest monthly allowance to settle in La Casa de Tiranos y Déspotas Depuestos

Spotted the Sun headline when paying for diesel today. "Camel for Mr Gaddaffi"

2 As and a B · Post by **2 As and a B** » 22 Feb 2011, 21:04

DominicJ wrote:
foodimista wrote:
DominicJ wrote:When was the decision made that the UK should take military action to support the rebellion?
What military action are you referring to Dom?
Enforcing the proposed no fly zone is an act of war.
Actualy bombing Ghadaffis troops even more so.

When did the UK take the decision to do these? I missed it. Do you have a reference for it?

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 22 Feb 2011, 21:19

My understanding at the moment is that these ideas are just that, ideas

2 As and a B · Post by **2 As and a B** » 23 Feb 2011, 07:44

Dom doesn't think so ...and he is a realist.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 23 Feb 2011, 07:49

With luck Gadaffis mercinaries will see the writing on the wall in a couple days and simply leave. Rats and leaky vessels.

MrG · Post by **MrG** » 23 Feb 2011, 09:32

biffvernon wrote:Seems that all oil exports from Libya have now halted. I think that's about 1.25mb/day.

Heard on the radio as I was walking out this morning. F--k. They made a prediction about the impact on the price we pay for fuel but I was busy running out the door so I'm on here trying to glean how bd this is...

Got paid today so buying another sack of rice and a sack of onions and a load of daal... why not it isn't going to get any cheaper anyway

MrG · Post by **MrG** » 23 Feb 2011, 09:35

RalphW wrote:With luck Gadaffis mercinaries will see the writing on the wall in a couple days and simply leave. Rats and leaky vessels.

That's actually what I'd been thinking re the hired thugs.

Must actually look pretty precarious from their position. Numbers wise that is. Heavily armed or not there are a LOT of pissed off people in that country.

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 23 Feb 2011, 09:51

Foodi
Your reading comprehension is failing you again....

I asked a question, meant to highlight the fact that the UK is not at war with the Libyan Government, nor allied with the Libyan Rebels.

Talk of assasinating dictators and overthrowing regimes of torture has something of the whiff of GWB jnr does it not?

Cabrone · Post by **Cabrone** » 23 Feb 2011, 10:06

The West imposed a no fly zone to protect the Kurds so why not the same for the Eastern half of Libya which is currently Gadaffi free?

Bring down any Libyan planes flying into this zone and launch strikes against any armour trying to enter.

At least it gives the people in the East a chance to regroup and reorganise.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 23 Feb 2011, 10:10

If previous form is anything to go by, US and UK special forces will already be on the ground. They will be guarding the oil installations, and making contact with tribal and militia and ex-army leaders.

They will be importing weapons and making sure that Gadaffi can't use that airfield he recaptured to bomb the oil installations.

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 23 Feb 2011, 10:12

Cabrone
We were at war with Iraq.
The right to enforce no fly zones was part of the cease fire agreement.

Ludwig · Post by **Ludwig** » 23 Feb 2011, 10:53

Cabrone wrote:The West imposed a no fly zone to protect the Kurds

... And then gave Turkey the go-ahead to bomb them - see "The New Rulers of the World" by John Pilger.

Don't be taken in by the surface explanations given for world events. Pretty much every apparently ethical aspect of Western foreign policy has just been window dressing. If we have brought any good good to foreign nations, it has only ever been a side-effect of pursuing our own interests.

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 23 Feb 2011, 11:02

Ludwig wrote:
Cabrone wrote:The West imposed a no fly zone to protect the Kurds
... And then gave Turkey the go-ahead to bomb them - see "The New Rulers of the World" by John Pilger.

I was unaware Turkey was a vassel state that needed our permission....
Who exactly was going to stop Turkey bombing the terrorists within its borders, and in Northern Iraq and Iran?
They invaded Iraq againsts US protests recently.

2 As and a B · Post by **2 As and a B** » 23 Feb 2011, 11:06

DominicJ wrote:Foodi
Your reading comprehension is failing you again....

I asked a question, meant to highlight the fact that the UK is not at war with the Libyan Government, nor allied with the Libyan Rebels.

But we knew that. So it was rather confusing for you to ask the question about when the UK had made the decision to "take military action to support the rebellion".