Can the drive for green energy go too far? :)

Totally_Baffled · Post by **Totally_Baffled** » 25 Jan 2011, 22:17

Can Green Energy go too far?

Moves to warm a swimming pool with heat generated by an adjacent crematorium have sparked outrage.

For me, if my burning corpse can provide a nice warm swim for some old granny - then so be it lol!

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 26 Jan 2011, 00:07

The Daily Mail version was trying to wind readers up, but all the comments when I read it supported the idea!

As the swimming pool is next door to the crematorium, it's the obvious thing to do. Cremating people isn't very green though. How about composting the corpses, and using the heat from that

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thecoalthief · Post by **thecoalthief** » 26 Jan 2011, 07:24

A swimming pool next to a crematorium sounds a great idea,saves me having my ashes scattered at sea.

Bandidoz · Post by **Bandidoz** » 27 Jan 2011, 14:39

They could collect all of the tears and use it to supply water for the pool (joke)

Just think, it could be worse, there could be a food processing plant (Soylent Inc') next door....

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 27 Jan 2011, 16:12

I can't see a swimming pool being situated next to a crem. The sound of children enjoying themselves while relatives are grieving wouldn't go down too well. That would be the ultimate Town Planning Disaster in my book.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 27 Jan 2011, 16:18

Just read the article. It's just a trade union trying to make a political point against a Tory council. Shows how desperate the unions are getting.

Another [gym user] said: "It is a very sensitive subject. I don’t relish the thought of swimming in a pool heated by the crematorium."

That shows how far from the reality of life we have come. As if the pool water could become contaminated by dead bodies in the crem? Doesn't he realise that he's probably already breathing in the dust from bodies as he runs on his treadmill in the gym.

Post by **adam2** » 27 Jan 2011, 16:20

kenneal wrote:I can't see a swimming pool being situated next to a crem. The sound of children enjoying themselves while relatives are grieving wouldn't go down too well. That would be the ultimate Town Planning Disaster in my book.

True, one might hope that the two facilities are a reasonable distance apart.

Baldybloke · Post by **Baldybloke** » 28 Jan 2011, 18:06

k.anderson3454 wrote:HUH?? Where exactly is this crematorium?:)

Redditch, I think.
Now all they need is to sort out some grey water recycling for when they change the water in the swimming pool!

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 26 Apr 2011, 22:47

Cremator to heat pool plan in Redditch passed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-he ... r-12388011

Unsurprisingly, the Oil & Gas Observer has an interesting take on what constitutes 'environmentally friendly':
http://www.oilandgasobserver.com/commen ... sts/003161

Cremation is one of the most environmentally friendly methods of disposing of a deceased person. For example, to limit material use funeral homes offer reusable caskets for cremations: after the ceremony the deceased person is transferred to a corrugated cardboard cask for the incineration.

The cremation process itself lasts approximately two hours, at temperatures of between 850 and 1,200 degrees Celsius. Natural gas or propane is used to generate the necessary heat, which is released unused into the air for the duration of the process.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 27 Apr 2011, 03:17

Mark wrote:
Cremation is one of the most environmentally friendly methods of disposing of a deceased person. For example, to limit material use funeral homes offer reusable caskets for cremations: after the ceremony the deceased person is transferred to a corrugated cardboard cask for the incineration.

The cremation process itself lasts approximately two hours, at temperatures of between 850 and 1,200 degrees Celsius. Natural gas or propane is used to generate the necessary heat, which is released unused into the air for the duration of the process.

They need to do a cradle to cradle assessment on this rather than just a cradle to grave one!

Neither our present burial system nor the crematorium system is at all green. A woodland burial system would be better and an orchard system even better still.

The 'merican way of death is even more extravagant than the 'merican way of life and, unfortunately, we seem to be importing that as well. I'm going for a cardboard coffin myself and the money saved can go behind the bar at the rugby club for beer for my wake.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 27 Apr 2011, 09:26

Wicker coffin and woodland for me.

Totally_Baffled · Post by **Totally_Baffled** » 30 Aug 2011, 13:12

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14114555

How about this for a green machine:

New body 'liquefaction' unit unveiled in Florida funeral home

The unit by Resomation Ltd is billed as a green alternative to cremation and works by dissolving the body in heated alkaline water.

The facility has been installed at the Anderson-McQueen funeral home in St Petersburg, and will be used for the first time in the coming weeks. It is hoped other units will follow in the US, Canada and Europe.

The makers claim the process produces a third less greenhouse gas than cremation, uses a seventh of the energy, and allows for the complete separation of dental amalgam for safe disposal.

Mercury from amalgam vaporised in crematoria is blamed for up to 16% of UK airborne mercury emissions, and many UK crematoria are currently fitting mercury filtration systems to meet reduced emission targets.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 30 Aug 2011, 13:43

There was something on the radio this morning about alligator fat being converted to diesel. I checked the calendar but it's not April the 1st.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 30 Aug 2011, 15:13

Totally_Baffled wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14114555

How about this for a green machine:

New body 'liquefaction' unit unveiled in Florida funeral home

The unit by Resomation Ltd is billed as a green alternative to cremation and works by dissolving the body in heated alkaline water.

The facility has been installed at the Anderson-McQueen funeral home in St Petersburg, and will be used for the first time in the coming weeks. It is hoped other units will follow in the US, Canada and Europe.

The makers claim the process produces a third less greenhouse gas than cremation, uses a seventh of the energy, and allows for the complete separation of dental amalgam for safe disposal.

Mercury from amalgam vaporised in crematoria is blamed for up to 16% of UK airborne mercury emissions, and many UK crematoria are currently fitting mercury filtration systems to meet reduced emission targets.

http://www.promessa.org.uk/how-promession-works.php

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 30 Aug 2011, 18:50

Also in the news....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14114555

A Glasgow-based company has installed its first commercial "alkaline hydrolysis" unit at a Florida funeral home.

The unit by Resomation Ltd is billed as a green alternative to cremation and works by dissolving the body in heated alkaline water