Gas alert as demand and prices rise

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 30 Nov 2010, 07:16

snow hope wrote: Ken, there is nothing wrong with the Arctic air flow. It is cold up there as normal.

Not quite sure how you define 'normal' snowhope. Beyond two standard deviations? Beyond the 2007 record? Less November sea ice since the last Ice Age? Weather is weather and has variation but whatever it is it ain't normal.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 30 Nov 2010, 20:00

It only got down to -9.5 last night. My data logger goes down to -25!

Hi-tech version of Biff's bee hive/weather station

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 30 Nov 2010, 20:02

I've heard about this data logging. It's threatening the orang-utans you know

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 30 Nov 2010, 23:45

To get a wider appreciation of the variability of arctic sea ice over the last three centuries (rather than just the last 30 years), have a read here, http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/20/h ... rctic-ice/

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 01 Dec 2010, 14:25

On the Prevailing View web site, forecast demand is 454, GBA is 456.

On the time series plot they have removed the marker indicating GBA level. It has been passed without triggering a GBA, so no point leaving it there...

Physical flows are 458, and price is up to 60p a therm.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 01 Dec 2010, 17:42

Wot, you mean GBAs have been gagged??

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 01 Dec 2010, 17:46

RenewableCandy wrote:Wot, you mean GBAs have been gagged??

It wouldn't make great news this early in the winter, would it.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 01 Dec 2010, 17:52

I've got no gas

. Calor were supposed to deliver to my local petrol station yesterday, but the latest news is tomorrow or Friday. I needed to stock up on dog food yesterday, so couldn't cope with a gas cylinder on the bus as well (assuming there's any in town)!

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 01 Dec 2010, 17:55

It would do wonders for Growth, at least in the candles/torch/food/wood/warm kit/insulation/camping sectors

There were some guys just down the road today putting in new DG on a neighbour's house as the snow swirled all around. Bare hands. Bloody tough up North, like!

featherstick · Post by **featherstick** » 01 Dec 2010, 21:05

RenewableCandy wrote:It would do wonders for Growth, at least in the candles/torch/food/wood/warm kit/insulation/camping sectors

!

Actually there's an investment fund based on the shares of companies producing prepper kit.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 03 Dec 2010, 10:20

Gas now being pumped at well above GBA levels. No GBA has been called.

(485 vs 457 mcm/day)

Oil (WTI) over $88. Brent well over $90.

woodpecker · Post by **woodpecker** » 03 Dec 2010, 10:28

JohnB wrote:I've got no gas . Calor were supposed to deliver to my local petrol station yesterday, but the latest news is tomorrow or Friday. I needed to stock up on dog food yesterday, so couldn't cope with a gas cylinder on the bus as well (assuming there's any in town)!

Yikes, that's grim! Hope you have managed to get one.
Maybe worthwhile having one more cylinder in reserve? (if you're totally dependent on this)

Do you have a local pub where you can warm up?

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 03 Dec 2010, 10:30

RalphW wrote:Gas now being pumped at well above GBA levels. No GBA has been called.

I don't understand why this is happening. What's the point of having a gba level if it isn't invoked?

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 03 Dec 2010, 10:37

We've just ordered some more firewood.

Also we are buying extras stocks of hay as we suspect that our huge pile in the barn will go down much more quickly than planned if we have a long cold winter. (We need to use our farmer contacts to get hay - they are now only selling it to people they know.)

Several car & leisure batteries now charged and sitting quietly under the sofa.

Just on the way out to buy a big gas cylinder ... although they were out of stock a couple of days ago. Deliveries not turning up.

I suppose we should stockpile some motor fuel, but I'm a bit nervous re fire and/or damp contamination.

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 03 Dec 2010, 11:16

woodpecker wrote:
JohnB wrote:I've got no gas . Calor were supposed to deliver to my local petrol station yesterday, but the latest news is tomorrow or Friday. I needed to stock up on dog food yesterday, so couldn't cope with a gas cylinder on the bus as well (assuming there's any in town)!
Yikes, that's grim! Hope you have managed to get one.
Maybe worthwhile having one more cylinder in reserve? (if you're totally dependent on this)

Do you have a local pub where you can warm up?

It wasn't that bad. I only use it for cooking, and had to go in the house to do it. I use electric heaters! I mentioned it mainly because I thought it might be a sign of shortage, but I got my spare cylinder replaced in town yesterday. I've been assured the petrol station will have a delivery today, so then I'll have a spare.