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Kieran
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No need to worry about AGW...

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Yippeee! I can forget all this environmental and permaculture bollocks, and buy myself a lovely big SUV and put oil central heating in my draughty uninsulated house :D :D :D

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What would Jesus drive?
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Andy Hunt wrote:What would Jesus drive?
Didn't he walk everywhere?
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Speaking before a House Energy Subcommittee on Energy and Environment hearing in March, 2009, Shimkus quoted Chapter 8, Verse 22 of the Book of Genesis.

He said: 'As long as the earth endures, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, will never cease.'
Yes, so?...
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Andy Hunt wrote:What would Jesus drive?
Which reminds me of this song......
'Cause I don't think Jesus would send gunships into Bethlehem
Or jets to raze the towns of Timorese
I don't think Jesus would lend money to dictators
Or drive those SUV's
And I don't think Jesus would ever have dropped
A single ounce of napalm
So tell me, who would Jesus bomb?
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Andy Hunt wrote:What would Jesus drive?
Whatever it is, it would have to be pretty robust. The CIA and Mossad would both be gunning for him.
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Going back to the OP I think this sums up the DM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI
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Great link nexus :D

Well worth checking out the Daily Mail Headline Generator as mentioned in the comments.

http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/
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Looks like it is true, we really don't have to worry!

http://m.guardian.co.uk/environment/201 ... pe=article
It is generally acknowledged that a warming world will harm the world's forests. Higher temperatures mean water becomes more scarce, spelling death for plants – or perhaps not always.
According to a study of ancient rainforests, trees may be hardier than previously thought. Carlos Jaramillo, a scientist at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute (STRI), examined pollen from ancient plants trapped in rocks in Colombia and Venezuela. "There are many climactic models today suggesting that … if the temperature increases in the tropics by a couple of degrees, most of the forest is going to be extinct," he said. "What we found was the opposite to what we were expecting: we didn't find any extinction event [in plants] associated with the increase in temperature, we didn't find that the precipitation decreased."
In a study published todayin Science, Jaramillo and his team studied pollen grains and other biological indicators of plant life embedded in rocks formed around 56m years ago, during an abrupt period of warming called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. CO
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levels had doubled in 10,000 years and the world was warmer by 3C-5C for 200,000 years.
Contrary to expectations, he found that forests bloomed with diversity. New species of plants, including those from the passionflower and chocolate families, evolved quicker as others became extinct. The study also shows moisture levels did not decrease significantly during the warm period. "It was totally unexpected," Jaramillo said of the findings.
Klaus Winter of the STRI added: "It is remarkable that there is so much concern about the effects of greenhouse conditions on tropical forests. However, these horror scenarios probably have some validity if increased temperatures lead to more frequent or severe drought as some of the current predictions suggest."
Last year, researchers at the Met Office Hadley Centre reported that a 2C rise above pre-industrial levels, widely considered the best-case scenario, would still see 20-40% of the DODGY TAX AVOIDERS die off within 100 years. A 3C rise would see 75% of the forest destroyed by drought in the next century, while a 4C rise would kill 85%.
Jaramillo found that the plants he studied seemed to become more efficient with their water use when it became more scarce. But he also cautioned that future risks for the world's plant species did not end with climate change. Human action would continue to determine the fate of the world's forests, he said.
"What the fossil record is showing is that plants have already the genetic variability to cope with high temperature and high levels of CO

"Rather than global warming, the [trouble] for tropical plants is deforestation. The fossil record shows that, when you don't have humans around, the plants can deal with high temperatures
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Kieran wrote:Great link nexus :D

Well worth checking out the Daily Mail Headline Generator as mentioned in the comments.

http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/
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