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http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/oct20 ... -o19.shtml

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Strike action continued yesterday in France against President Nicolas Sarkozy’s pension cuts, with truckers joining energy workers on strike amid a looming gasoline shortage and reports of increasing police violence against student protests.

Workers and students are protesting Sarkozy’s planned two-year increase in the retirement age, with a corresponding increase in the pay-in period, contained in a pension “reform” bill passed by lawmakers despite overwhelming popular opposition. Polls show 71 percent of the population support strike activity against the cuts.

The expansion of the strikes and protests, far from being spearheaded by the unions, is being carried out overwhelmingly at the initiative of the workers themselves. In the face of this rising confrontation, prominent union officials are indicating that, once the bill is passed by the Senate, they will scale back or seek to end the strikes and protests.

Ports and all twelve of France’s refineries are on strike, and oil depots and tanker trucking are also hit by strikes and occupations of workplaces. Roughly 2,500 of France’s 12,500 gas stations have completely run out of supplies, according to industry figures, including 1,500 stations operated by major retailers like Carrefour and Leclerc and 1,000 independently-owned stations. Certain regions are particularly hard hit, with 80 percent of gas stations closed in the Essonne region near Paris. The figures are similar in parts of Normandy, and supplies in Brittany are hitting “very frightening” lows, according to the UIP (Union of Importers of Petroleum) industry group.

Blockages or occupations of oil depots continued at Reichstett, Dunkirk, Caen and Saint-Pierre-des Corps. Blockages were lifted at Port-la-Nouvelle and Brest, with police intervening to demand the blockages be lifted at Frontignan and Ouistreham. However, workers at Frontignan went back on strike after the blockade was broken.

Truckers have gone on strike, blockading depots and slowing traffic on major highways, including the A1 connecting Paris and Lille and A6 south of Paris. Workers intervened to halt the collection of tolls on several highways in “free toll-booth operations,” and several smaller highways were blocked.

Strikes are also spreading in mass transportation. Air France workers will strike today and tomorrow, possibly blocking airports; air traffic controllers are also going on strike. The General Directorate of Civilian Aviation (DGAC) has instructed airlines to cut their flying schedules by 30 percent nationwide, and 50 percent at Orly airport. Strikes are in their eighth consecutive day at the SNCF rail system, with roughly one in two trains expected today. The strikes may spread to armored car firms such as Brink’s and Loomis.

High school protests continue throughout the country and have increased since last week. The UNL (National Union of High School Students) reported Monday that roughly 950 of France’s 4,302 high schools were on strike, with 600 high schools blockaded. The UNEF (National Union of French University Students) announced that students were meeting in general assemblies at their universities, with twelve universities calling for strikes and five for blockades.

High school students are using their cell phones to coordinate protest actions. Ecology Minister Jean-Louis Borloo explained: “It’s a phenomenon we have not seen before, the phenomenon of blockading via SMS.”

Student protests were reported in all of France’s major cities. Protest demonstrations in Lyon, Nice, Mulhouse and Lille led to confrontations with police, who fired tear gas. Police claimed to have arrested 290 people in confrontations with high school students around France.

High school blockades and confrontations with police spread throughout the Paris area. Over half of the 64 high schools in the working class Seine-St-Denis suburbs in the north were blockaded.

Students in Paris proper demonstrated before City Hall and blocked traffic on the Champs-Elysées. Police fired rubber bullets and tear gas in a standoff with students at the Joliot-Curie high school in the western suburb of Nanterre, and reported facing students throwing Molotov cocktails at the Jacques Prévert technical high school in Combs-la-Ville, east of Paris.

Major corporations are demanding the breaking of the blockades to avert a total gasoline shortage. Michel-Edouard Leclerc, owner of Leclerc, told Le Parisien: “at the current rate of fueling, there will be no more gasoline by the end of the week, unless we find a way out of this conflict.” Carrefour issued a statement warning that “the risk of shortage is real” and calling on the government to “unblock” oil depots.

The top levels of government are preparing for a confrontation with strikers. Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux announced yesterday afternoon the creation of an emergency Inter-Ministerial Crisis Group to ensure the supply of oil. This was decided after meetings at the Elysée presidential palace attended by Fillon, Hortefeux, Borloo, Labor Minister Eric Woerth and National Education Minister Luc Chatel.

At the Grandpuits refinery east of Paris, police “requisitioned” thirty workers—that is, forced them to stop striking under threat of arrest. Workers declared themselves to be “extremely angry” about this, and are refusing to fully operate the site or deliver supplies to all their clients.
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RalphW wrote:Neither the left or the right understand the underlying causes (limits to growth) , and the fact that they are now scrapping over a permanently shrinking pie.
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If this carries on, they wont have enough petrol left to make petrol bombs !
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Ah they'll have put aside a special stash for that!
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The French government have 30 days supply of petroleum products in their strategic reserve. Their industrial reserves are already exhausted.

The senate votes on the new laws today. Tomorrow it will be done and dusted.

I don't think even the French are prepared to blockade military controlled reserves for the 20 days it would take to seriously damage the government.
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It would appear that the reserve stocks of oil and refined products are mainly held at refinerys and depots that are blockaded by rioters.

Such stocks are valuable in event that imports are cut off, but are of less use in case of internal unrest.

Riot police have now been deployed to open the depots, with mixed results.

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News is still confused. 3 depots had the blockades lifted by SWAT teams, but one re-instated. Natural gas supplies have now been targeted
with 3 sites that hold 60% of French NG storage not injecting into the grid.

If (when) the weather turns cold, that one could be interesting :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11580492
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Sorry I haven't a lot to add to this thread - you lot probably know more about this than I do.

I don't go out much and I hardly ever watch TV.

My personal feeling is that the strikes in France aren't really about pensions - a lot of people don't really understand the implications of leaving the pension age so low.

Older people in work are just getting angrier about having to contribute so much to a social fund which seems like a bottomless pit (Us included - we have to find 12,000€ a year before we earn anything for ourselves.) and the younger people have no money, no jobs and no real future.

Sarko's "charm" is wearing thin. :mrgreen:
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The video says it all really:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11591517

we have had our eyes taken off this ball due to our own little crisis :wink:

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The big problem is the money in private pension funds. There simply is not enough, and no one has the b..lls to admit the pension industry is not sustainable in the 21st century. As to what replaces it I haven't a clue, but thinking jobs can be created for the young is misguided. It may only be a short term measure, but allowing people to retire even younger, would free up jobs for younger people, many with small mouths to feed, wheras those above a certain age tend to have lesss debt, and fewer dependants.
Government policy in both IK and France has little to fdo with paying out benefits and more to do with propping up part of the financial industry, an industry which expects praise for gambling our money, and expecting us to pay when they fail to win.
Unless young people with or without families get into work, then the future is even bleaker. I am optimistics about most things, but pessimistic when it come to the West getting its industry back to the levels 50 years ago(assuming we actually want it), and out pension industry is built on those foundations. There has to be an alternative to private pension funds, which have been shown o be no better than putting you life savings on the 2:30 at Epsom. :twisted:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oc ... ing-petrol
French strikes: panic-buying at petrol pumps• A quarter of petrol stations run dry ahead of half-term break
• All 12 refineries and some fuel depots are blockaded
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rue_d_etropal wrote:The big problem is the money in private pension funds. There simply is not enough, and no one has the b..lls to admit the pension industry is not sustainable in the 21st century.
Pension funds have been mismanaged and plundered over the last 10 - 15 years or so. Gordon Brown removed the rights for pension funds to claim back tax credit on dividends - I believe this was estimated at £5billion a year.

Also in the late 1990s pension fund managers decided (in their infinite wisdom :roll: ) to take "pension holidays" - they stpped contributions coming in for a year or so. Instead of building up funds, they were gradually being whittled down.

Final salary schemes are now pretty much a thing of the past. Having briefly worked in the pensions dept of a large bank many moons ago, I fear that Rue's prognosis is an accurate one...
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Protests over fuel prices are part of life in France, but seem to be becoming larger or better supported.

Large scale protests are presently underway again and the situation has been inflamed by at least one death.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560
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Ongoing.
The current round of protests are now entering the third weekend of significant disorder.
Riot police deployed.
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whilst it is true that left and right both suffer from the same perpetual growth based delusion, this kind of conflict is need to come to head in order for what faces us all to become exposed. At which point, some kind of honest discourse might finally begin.
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