Stock up Now

[madibe]

Dont Panic

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Car tanks topped up check
2 small Diesel jerrycan winter grade check
1 large Diesel jerrycan winter grade check
bottled water check
Tinned food, lots check
Sack of spuds check
Bread making ingredients check
Dried milk check
long life milk check
dog food check
lights, candles check
gas heater check
choccy bars check
prescription meds stockpile check
toilet paper check
cash (for bus / taxi fares and fresh veg)


Stock up now? Should have stocked up ages ago. Avoids the thorough unpleasantess of panic buying.

[adam2]

Agree entirely, I have long held the view that it is prudent to stock up.

PO should be relatively gradual, and is probably here already, no shortages in the shops just yet, in the UK.
One should however stock up before the shortages, those who argue that there is no need to stock up because there are no shortages are mistaken.
Stocking up then could be considered hoarding as it would deprive others, and anyway it would be expensive and otherwise problematic in times of shortage.

As well as the small but real risk of a sudden collapse caused by PO, consider the risks of extreme weather, industrial accidents, strikes, protests, and war or coup in distant countries on which we are reliant for food or fuel.

The present situation in France has led to widespread fuel shortages, and a few localised food shortages.
It could happen here.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

As well as the small but real risk of a sudden collapse caused by PO, consider the risks of extreme weather, industrial accidents, strikes, protests, and war or coup in distant countries on which we are reliant for food or fuel.

The present situation in France has led to widespread fuel shortages, and a few localised food shortages.
It could happen here.

You forgot to mention cyber crime, and pandemics. Back when I was a disaster planner, I saw a major paper on the UK food industry, (I forwarded it here at the time) - basically said they were good at tracking product for recall, but were shockingly bad at resilience. After all, that would harm profits. Most of the population rely on a three-day food and fuel supply chain. Not me.

[Kentucky Fried Panda]

I'm currently eating into my stock of food. I had too much, so most of it has expired date wise.
Proper stock control is key and don't buy hundreds of cans of baked beans even if they were cheap...

[Mean Mr Mustard]

I'm currently eating into my stock of food. I had too much, so most of it has expired date wise.
Proper stock control is key and don't buy hundreds of cans of baked beans even if they were cheap...

Absolutely. Only buy canned goods of stuff you'd use and actually like. That said, the sell-by date on cans might be a bit pessimistic? I draw the line when the can gets rusty. Which reminds me...

TV dinners - there's nothin' else to eat
TV dinners - they really can't be beat
I like 'em frozen, but you understand
I throw 'em in and wave 'em, and I'm a brand new man. Oh yeah!

TV dinners - they're goin' to my head
TV dinners - my skin is turnin' red
Twenty year old turkey in a thirty year old tin
I can't wait 'til tomorrow.... And thaw one out again. Oh yeah!

TV dinners - I'm feelin' kinda rough
TV dinners - this one's kinda tough
I like the enchiladas, and the teriaki too
I even like the chicken, if the sauce is not too blue.

And they're mine, all mine, oh yeah
And they sure are fine.
Gotta have 'em
Gimme somethin' now.

ZZ Top, 1983

[RachCDS]

By storing vast supplies now aren’t you in a sense panic buying? If we all start thinking that we should buy extra things, is there not a danger of starting the ball rolling and suddenly everybody will start buying more and more and we’ll have created our own panic buy for no reason?

Just a thought.

[adam2]

By storing vast supplies now aren’t you in a sense panic buying? If we all start thinking that we should buy extra things, is there not a danger of starting the ball rolling and suddenly everybody will start buying more and more and we’ll have created our own panic buy for no reason?

Just a thought.

I think it would be a good idea to start a small panic now, rather than a bad one later.
Most people shop from day to day with no concern about the future.
If such persons could be induced to panic a bit, and spend say £100 on food and other supplies then they will be better prepared.

One should of course avoid waste by only purchasing that which will be used up within its shelf life , which is likely longer than than the best before date.
Bulk buying is often cheaper, and if you drive to the shops it entails less fuel use than frequent trips for small amounts.

[Señor]

Car tanks topped up check
2 small Diesel jerrycan winter grade check
1 large Diesel jerrycan winter grade check
bottled water check
Tinned food, lots check
Sack of spuds check
Bread making ingredients check
Dried milk check
long life milk check
dog food check
lights, candles check
gas heater check
choccy bars check
prescription meds stockpile check
toilet paper check
cash (for bus / taxi fares and fresh veg)


Stock up now? Should have stocked up ages ago. Avoids the thorough unpleasantess of panic buying.

If it gets to the stage that it is necessary for us to stockpile our food because there is no energy, I can't see that the buses will be running

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Hola Señor

The buses will, or at least should, have priority for diesel stocks in a severe shortage. But just about the only groups without some priority need in a fuel emergency would be hairdressers and fashion designers...

Another hot tip - keep a corded landline phone. It means you can be contacted during a power cut.

Cash is better than a credit/debit card, being as they rely on power for use, and ATMs also need road fuel for securty van re-stocking.

Even cash has limited utility these days, with EPOS meaning the shops need power just to make any simple transaction. Market stalls don't have that problem, though they too need fuel...

[madibe]

I did say ' Don't Panic'

[kenneal - lagger]

Proper stock control is key and don't buy hundreds of cans of baked beans even if they were cheap...

We acquired hundreds of baked bean cans when a lorry overturned near us and shed its load of Heinz finest. Most, unfortunately, had to be dumped as the cans rusted and blew. Still, we had a good methane supply for a while! Maybe we contributed to global warming.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Proper stock control is key and don't buy hundreds of cans of baked beans even if they were cheap...

We acquired hundreds of baked bean cans when a lorry overturned near us and shed its load of Heinz finest. Most, unfortunately, had to be dumped as the cans rusted and blew. Still, we had a good methane supply for a while! Maybe we contributed to global warming.

Local Farmer in Beanz Galore Free For All

Reports of a once law abiding and well respected local farmer and his neighbours rapidly descending on and looting an overturned food lorry are now coming in from Newbury. It is believed that the police either looked the other way after securing their own share, or had already departed from the scene of the incident to robustly deal with a speeding motorist seen doing 34 mph in a built up area.

The last remaining Provisional Coalition Government spokesman on the public payroll claimed that, while regrettable, this was only an isolated outbreak of anarchy, and that there was no cause for concern. They added that there would most definitely never be any military presence on UK streets, were such unfortunate incidents to become the norm, as the military had now been reduced to ceremonial duties.

[Kentucky Fried Panda]

By storing vast supplies now aren’t you in a sense panic buying? If we all start thinking that we should buy extra things, is there not a danger of starting the ball rolling and suddenly everybody will start buying more and more and we’ll have created our own panic buy for no reason?

Just a thought.

Here's a question for you, how many days food do you have in your house/flat/squat at the moment?

If it's less than 2 weeks worth, you'll be a drain on resources come a natural disaster or unnatural event.

If you rely on the nanny state for everything, they effectively own you...

2 weeks food and water, sanitary supplies, warm waterproof clothing and emergency heating/cooking system is a bare minimum requirement in an uncertain world.

[adam2]

Here's a question for you, how many days food do you have in your house/flat/squat at the moment?

If it's less than 2 weeks worth, you'll be a drain on resources come a natural disaster or unnatural event.

If you rely on the nanny state for everything, they effectively own you...

2 weeks food and water, sanitary supplies, warm waterproof clothing and emergency heating/cooking system is a bare minimum requirement in an uncertain world.

I keep 2 weeks worth at work, 3 months worth at home, and more with a relative.
Water 2 weeks worth, and means to purify water almost indefinatly.
Plenty of warm clothing and blankets.
Electricity at work for 48 hours
Electricity at home almost indefinatly.