Time

woodpecker · Post by **woodpecker** » 26 Sep 2010, 13:00

I haven't worn a watch for - maybe - three or four years.

We're incredibly lucky to have OS. Many countries have no real equivalent, and either have almost non-existent mapping (controlled by the military - virtually no public access) and/or private (often ancient) mapping projects that are highly inaccurate. When I was planning for a visit to Turkey, I was rather surprised to find the best maps seem to be Soviet ... though there are countries much nearer (EU) that have incredibly poor mapping (other than motorway/main carriageway maps).

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 26 Sep 2010, 17:10

woodpecker wrote:I haven't worn a watch for - maybe - three or four years.

My strap broke a couple of weeks ago, and I haven't fixed it yet. I think it's the longest I've gone without wearing a watch, and it seems a bit odd. I'm not sure if I like it or not yet!

Kentucky Fried Panda · Post by **Kentucky Fried Panda** » 26 Sep 2010, 17:30

I have a wenger Swiss military watch in my outdoor kit and a fossil watch for going out. I had a really nice seiko a few years back but lost it in a punch up in LA while on holiday.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 27 Sep 2010, 03:31

Haggis wrote:
RogueMale wrote:
adam2 wrote:As others post, timekeeping will probably be less important in a lower energy future, but would still be needed to an extent.
Accurate timekeeping will certainly be needed for navigation, once satellite navigation systems fail. You need it to calculate your longitude.
will all the road atlases and OS maps disappear?

They don't show much detail of the Atlantic. Or even the North Sea.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 27 Sep 2010, 03:36

woodpecker wrote:We're incredibly lucky to have OS. Many countries have no real equivalent, and either have almost non-existent mapping (controlled by the military - virtually no public access) and/or private (often ancient) mapping projects that are highly inaccurate. When I was planning for a visit to Turkey, I was rather surprised to find the best maps seem to be Soviet ... though there are countries much nearer (EU) that have incredibly poor mapping (other than motorway/main carriageway maps).

The Greeks put deliberate errors in their mapping to confuse the Turks, if they invade. I found out, to my cost, when a supposedly three hour walk turned into a six hour one with a half hour taxi ride back as well. They'd left a very steep, deep, impassable gully off the map which necessitated a long detour.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 27 Sep 2010, 10:10

When I worked with the Royal Aerospace Establishment I helped with a quick survey of aviation navigation beacons by comparing the locations reported by a plane fitted with both the (then) new differential GPS and a state of the art radio beacon navigation system. Clever software then worked out how far from the reported position the radio beacons actually were. Most were within 100M of their reported location.

The main beacon at Heraclion (sp) in Crete was precisely one mile west of its reported position.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 27 Sep 2010, 15:05

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 27 Sep 2010, 15:16

TroubledTimes wrote:Of course (according to my Mum), I don't have a "proper job" anyway so I don't have to be anywhere at a certain time, but then when TSHTF, most people probably won't have one either!

What's a "proper job"? I don't understand that concept