Judging status in a PO world

lurker · Post by **lurker** » 21 Sep 2010, 10:30

Unfortunately, blind socialism couldn't see this and most grammar schools were turned into awful comprehensives and all and sundry were subjected to an academic education. And we now wonder why we have so many disaffected young adults and a great shortage of skilled builders and engineering workers.

Urm might be bacuse the tories scapped apprenticeships?

& don't worry the tories are bringing back a two tier education sysytem like grammar schools (Academy's & "Free" schools) so the rich kids don't have to mix with the poorer ones.

The only good thing the lib dems have done since the coalition is the protest vote against this.

the mad cyclist · Post by **the mad cyclist** » 21 Sep 2010, 14:49

RenewableCandy wrote:For women, the best status symbol is, not having to have sex (of course this is not the same as, not having any ).

It's that simple, and it's universal.

RC its funny that you should mention the S word, as I’ve always thought that the male urge to acquire status symbols, is really a primeval instinct to attract a mate.
What else would lead to such irrational behaviour? Otherwise sensible men borrowing vast amounts of money, often impoverishing their own families, to buy an expensive car, which when conveying them from A to B, perform no additional function over a basic model. The same of cause goes for most prestige items; do expensive watches tell the time any better?
So that wind turbine would have to be something really special, perhaps one that could power the whole street or village. Let me father your children, I have the largest turbine for miles.
Perhaps in a PO world we could go back to having completely useless status symbols. Codpieces and elaborate wigs for starters?

lurker · Post by **lurker** » 21 Sep 2010, 17:19

How about clothing & jewelery as status symbols

Gold chains & coin belts etc displaying you wealth asuming the fiat currently system collaspes but gold is still traded as currency. Also a gun you carry with you might be a big status symbol. Or any possibly rare pre PO artifacts still fuctioning like batteries that work an ipod

Also how many head of cattle/goats/sheep you own like the Masai Mara

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 21 Sep 2010, 18:34

NWA

life ain't nothing but bitches and money

yup life's all about pushing your genetics forward

http://www.isteve.com/2003_Genes_of_His ... _Found.htm

beat that Gandhi

Keela · Post by **Keela** » 21 Sep 2010, 23:17

jonny2mad wrote:NWA life ain't nothing but bitches and money

yup life's all about pushing your genetics forward

http://www.isteve.com/2003_Genes_of_His ... _Found.htm

beat that Gandhi

Conn Igguldon has written an amazing series of historical novels that traces the rise of Genghis Khan - the first one is Wolves of the Plains. A great read - I just finished the 4th book (dealing with his successors) about half an hour ago!

Grizzly Mouse · Post by **Grizzly Mouse** » 22 Sep 2010, 05:12

The highest status symbol will be the number of shrunken heads hanging from your saddle.

the mad cyclist · Post by **the mad cyclist** » 23 Sep 2010, 11:41

contadino wrote:Around here, your worth as a man is already measured on the quality of your olive oil, the state of your vegetable plot, and how good your wine is.

A few years ago I went and asked an old neighbour how to harvest olives from a garden of a holiday home owner, where the trees had not been maintained properly. He said that the owner wasn't a proper man as without oil, his family wouldn't be able to feed themselves.

It may sound backwards to you middle englanders, but it makes perfect sense to me.

It makes perfect sense to me too

I believe, that by using the class system, which keeps people in their place almost as well as religion, the lower middle classes have been conned. They’ve been led to believe that their job is the most important thing in their life. Their small and over priced houses are little more then somewhere to sleep and refuel between work. Time off from this daily grind is spent shopping, shopping and more shopping. So besides having no land and no time they’re hardly going consider a veg plot as important, are they?

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 23 Sep 2010, 15:27

It's the mortgage and debt which keep the slaves noses to the grindstone. They are the modern day version of the overseer and they make money instead of having to be paid for the job. They are also so unobtrusive that most people think they are gaining something by having them instead of resenting them and trying to get out from under the yoke.

the mad cyclist · Post by **the mad cyclist** » 24 Sep 2010, 13:06

kenneal wrote:It's the mortgage and debt which keep the slaves noses to the grindstone. They are the modern day version of the overseer and they make money instead of having to be paid for the job. They are also so unobtrusive that most people think they are gaining something by having them instead of resenting them and trying to get out from under the yoke.

I totally agree. But which came first, spending the future, or the British middle classes obsession with jobs and work?

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 24 Sep 2010, 13:30

the mad cyclist wrote:I totally agree. But which came first, spending the future, or the British middle classes obsession with jobs and work?

The obsession with work is a long established trait in this country as our climate, long term, has necessitated the hard work to provide for food and fuel over the winter period. Those who didn't work, didn't survive.

2 As and a B · Post by **2 As and a B** » 25 Sep 2010, 07:33

contadino wrote:Around here, your worth as a man is already measured on the quality of your olive oil, the state of your vegetable plot, and how good your wine is.

A few years ago I went and asked an old neighbour how to harvest olives from a garden of a holiday home owner, where the trees had not been maintained properly. He said that the owner wasn't a proper man as without oil, his family wouldn't be able to feed themselves.

It may sound backwards to you middle englanders, but it makes perfect sense to me.

You arrogant twat.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 25 Sep 2010, 08:31

What's arrogant or twattish about that? It seems a very sensible attitude for self-reliance in an uncertain future.

Keela · Post by **Keela** » 25 Sep 2010, 08:39

Perhaps it may have been the over-generalisation that we are all middle Englanders, whilst he thinks he is so much more than that?

Of course we are not all middle Englanders either in location or mindset.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 25 Sep 2010, 08:45

Ah, right. I'm not a middle-Englander. I live by the seaside.

contadino · Post by **contadino** » 25 Sep 2010, 11:16

foodimista wrote:
contadino wrote:Around here, your worth as a man is already measured on the quality of your olive oil, the state of your vegetable plot, and how good your wine is.

A few years ago I went and asked an old neighbour how to harvest olives from a garden of a holiday home owner, where the trees had not been maintained properly. He said that the owner wasn't a proper man as without oil, his family wouldn't be able to feed themselves.

It may sound backwards to you middle englanders, but it makes perfect sense to me.
You arrogant twat.

f***ing Hypocrite wrote:do you absolutely have to use such foul language? I mean, do you consider that it adds anything to your arguments?