Earth heading for 5 billion overpopulation?

[clv101]

After all, if you can't discuss these type of things on a online forum where nobody knows each other, where can u? (After all, i never discuss peak oil to real people, its a subject best left to the fringes to the internet in my opinion)

A lot of people do know each other on here in person, and many are very involved in 'peak oil' in their real lives. A few of us regularly meet in Westminster to discuss peak oil at the All Party Parliamentary Group on Peak Oil and Gas, not to mention the numerous conferences on the subject including an annual conference hosted by the Energy Institute.

It's good to talk about these things in real life, you might then realise peak oil isn't the weirdo subject you think it is. Fringes of the Internet? My local council commissioned a peak oil report last year and peak oil understanding runs through their policies.

...i never discuss peak oil to real people...

Now that's weird...

[JohnB]

After all, if you can't discuss these type of things on a online forum where nobody knows each other, where can u? (After all, i never discuss peak oil to real people, its a subject best left to the fringes to the internet in my opinion)
...i never discuss peak oil to real people...

I don't know that many people I couldn't discuss peak oil with! Most of them are involved with permaculture, transition or other environmental stuff. I've got friends I've made through PowerSwitch, people I stayed with when I was travelling, and of course there's Kenneals annual event next month.

[Lord Beria3]

clv101

My circles of friends (my family know about peak oil, although i don't talk about it much now, as they don't like hearing about it), are pretty normal, mainstream bunch (not obviously green or anything), and i couldn't imagine talking about peak oil with them.

They would think i was either a nutter or they quickly move the subject on.

I did try chatting to a couple of green-aware friends at uni, but one flipped out, because of medical problems whilist my other friend, although aware of peak (through the Economist) used to find any negativity 'doom and gloom' and tended to see it purely through a techno perspective, which got on my nerves after a while.

After that experience, i decided lifes alot easier if i keep my views to myself.

Whilst a applaud your efforts in the 'real world', i also got involved when i had the chance with Brighton Transition where i met people involved with permaculture, sustainability and growing your own food schemes.

However, from my experience, apart from that deep green bubble (Transition, permaculture projects), very few people are at all aware or interested in peak oil which is why i keep my views to myself.

[lancasterlad]

My local council commissioned a peak oil report last year and peak oil understanding runs through their policies.

Our local council are certainly PO aware. A number of publications they've issued mention PO and Lancaster has a Transition Towns group. Peak Oil is certainly mainstream and I will talk to anyone about it.

[jonny2mad]

its mainstream to a degree although far more people know about climate change you have government campaigns on climate change .

[2 As and a B]

However, from my experience, apart from that deep green bubble (Transition, permaculture projects), very few people are at all aware or interested in peak oil which is why i keep my views to myself.

I've found that people are often very receptive to the obvious logic of peak oil once something of the consequences are elaborated upon. Case in point last night: I asked the nurse if she wanted to see a horror movie and put on the "End of Suburbia" DVD - which I later re-qualified as a "scary" movie when she realised it was a documentary. As it turned out, she was fascinated with it and, as it was made around 2003/4 and described likely future events, we had quite a discussion about the subsequent oil price spike, food riots, credit crunch, housing crash, recession and how Detroit is being reclaimed for agriculture. "Requiem for Detroit" is pencilled in for a future viewing.

[emordnilap]

They would think i was either a nutter or they quickly move the subject on.

More likely both.

After that experience, i decided lifes alot easier if i keep my views to myself.

That's sad but there again, I live in Ireland where toleration is practically a national trait and people love eccentrics. Views and opinions can be exchanged quite freely, I find, though again having any kind of influence with those views is subject to the same constraints as anywhere, ie 99% impossible.

However, from my experience, apart from that deep green bubble (Transition, permaculture projects), very few people are at all aware or interested in peak oil which is why i keep my views to myself.

See my comments on the 'skills in the community' thread. It's a juggling act. Get those almost there into the net and leave the distant people to their own devices.

[RenewableCandy]

clv101

My circles of friends (my family know about peak oil, although i don't talk about it much now, as they don't like hearing about it), are pretty normal, mainstream bunch (not obviously green or anything), and i couldn't imagine talking about peak oil with them.

They would think i was either a nutter or they quickly move the subject on.

I did try chatting to a couple of green-aware friends at uni, ...

After that experience, i decided lifes alot easier if i keep my views to myself.

It's very probably all in the way you tell 'em.