Lessons Learned From Grandparents

[biffvernon]

Kenneal, I agree Domestic Science should be brought back.

Funnily enough cooking is just becoming a compulsory part of the curriculum. Lots of teachers are busy going on courses to learn how to teach it. You need a special certificate apparently.

[snow hope]

It must be getting hot out in Italy...... calm down a bit contidino please. I think we are all on the same side here.

[kenneal - lagger]

I think we are all on the same side here.

Until it comes to "insulation, insulation, insulation."

[JohnB]

Until it comes to "insulation, insulation, insulation."

I like insulation. I'll have insulation, insulation, insulation, insulation, fried egg and insulation

Or was that spam?

[Catweazle]

I'll have insulation, insulation, insulation, insulation, fried egg and insulation

Eggs are off.

[RenewableCandy]

Kenneal, I agree Domestic Science should be brought back.

I remember that for most years it was just (?) cookery but for those that continued into the 4th and 5th form it was a comprehensive household management course including cleaning, laundry and budgeting.
My 'umble comprehensive had a DS department complete with bathroom and bedroom side rooms. The main classrooms had walk-in pantries and a dining area and a genuine stand-alone airing cupboard.

On a lighter but practical note if we still had DS and therefore DS baskets I'd be able to find elasticated covers for my baskets easily!

Any ideas where I can find any?
Online or here in the South West.

DS Baskets blimey that takes me back!!! Erm surely it shouldn't be too difficult to make a cover, it's just a foot-long oval of material cut in 1/2 and hemmed round the edges with a bit of lacky threaded through the hem, no? (Mind you there's a technique for curved hems, which of course I've forgotten!)

[the_lyniezian]

The basic Christian concepts of, humility, unselfishness, of doing unto others.... and loving thy neighbour have been forgotten. It's all bragging, respeck and street cred now.

Oh [...]. Maybe you've forgotten your history. There was no humility and 'doing unto others...' during the Crusades.

Indeed, and I am ashamed that such could be propogated and encouraged by those who were called Christians and the Christian church.

It is also why I am not, nor would seriously consider, becoming a Catholic. Any 'Christian' institution which is worthy of the name does not use violence to further its ends, as Christ Himself discouraged that.

RE was about institutionalising religious intolerance. I'd go so far as to say that if you let your kids believe the shite they were taught 20 years ago in RE classes, you're a negligent parent. Keep religion out of schools.

Well, I can't quite answer for that, since 20 years ago I was a frsh-faced reception-class kid who'dbarely started school and they were too busy teaching us how to read, write, add up and sit still than give us any more religion than how to sing "You've got to move when the Spirit says move" and suchlike in assembly.

But I can't say what you mean by institutionalising relgious intolerance was ever my experience, as I recall no such thing. It also depends on what you mean by that. If it is merely saying that some religions might actually be wrong (the pluralist's worst nightmare it seems), that's one thing, if it's "teh ev0l muslims are takin over!!1!" (or somehow exploiting the Protestant/Catholic divide in Northern Ireland) that's quite another. The former, is if nothing else simply common sense (different faiths make contradictory claims and can't all be right), the latter less so. Disagreeing with your neighbours is fine, hating them isn't.

It's hardly like teaching the positive values of a particular religion, and using that faith to inspire such values, is wrong. Of course it must be tempered with an understanding of other faiths too. The American-style 'no religion in schools!' approach is frankly lacking.

[RenewableCandy]

The American-style 'no religion in schools!' approach is frankly lacking.

You've obviously never lived in Glasgow then. Sectarianism starting at the age of 5 is something that I would happily our cities "lacked" The weekend has enough days to cover most religions in the Western world, if you're desperate for that sort o'thing.

[the_lyniezian]

The American-style 'no religion in schools!' approach is frankly lacking.

You've obviously never lived in Glasgow then. Sectarianism starting at the age of 5 is something that I would happily our cities "lacked" The weekend has enough days to cover most religions in the Western world, if you're desperate for that sort o'thing.

When I imply 'lacking', I mean that the complete non-teaching of religion of any sort is no better in fostering understanding or community cohesion than teaching the merits of only one religion.

And no, I've never lived in Glasgow. Stockton-on-Tees man born and raised. Not to say there is no sectarianism, but despite the fact that our RE had a distinctly Christian bent even in my secular primary school (as opposed to the C of E secondary school I went to following), it was never at the expense of other faiths, or preaching a narrow sectarianism. (Other than that the Muslim kids were in a seperate class that focussed on Islam, whilst everybody else got taught Christianity as the main focus, by GCSE level.) Sectarianism may exist, but not to an extent where I've noticed...

[the_lyniezian]

Kenneal, I agree Domestic Science should be brought back.

Funnily enough cooking is just becoming a compulsory part of the curriculum. Lots of teachers are busy going on courses to learn how to teach it. You need a special certificate apparently.

Something they sadly never taught us anywhere near what I'd havehoped for. Frying eggs and making biscuits is hardly going to set one up for life.

[RenewableCandy]

It'd set you up for breakfast, and that's a start...

[emordnilap]

It'd set you up for breakfast, and that's a start...

Making biscuits or...hmm, what's that about loaves and fishes?

I know which knowledge would set you up in better stead.

[JohnB]

They practised sexism in domestic science when I was at school, so I had to teach myself to cook when I escaped from home. I did have the advantage of having watched my Mum do it though, and pinched lots of her recipes!

[RenewableCandy]

Our school was the same, it'd be illegal nowadays which is a funny thought. My mum left home so it's probably just as well we did some cooking at school. I wish I'd learned woodwork too, mind.