Deepwater Horizon

ziggy12345 · Post by **ziggy12345** » 02 May 2010, 23:24

Where is the info saying it was a bad cement job? I can only see a suggustion it might be. Even if the cement failed the last line of defence is the BOP.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 03 May 2010, 08:42

Looks like Joe Romm at ClimateProgress is going to keep the world up to date on developments:
http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/01/o ... ons-a-day/

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 03 May 2010, 08:47

biffvernon wrote:Looks like Joe Romm at ClimateProgress is going to keep the world up to date on developments:
http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/01/o ... ons-a-day/

Watch the video half way down the article. It includes Palin saying "drill baby drill".

careful_eugene · Post by **careful_eugene** » 03 May 2010, 13:59

biffvernon wrote:First step is to lower a concrete funnel-like structure over the leak to catch the oil and pump it up to a ship. A couple of weeks to fabricate this structure. Meanwhile another hole is drilled as Ziggy says but that takes a couple of months.

Why concrete, steel would be easier to fabricate and take less time. Would this work and if so why aren't they talking about doing it?

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 03 May 2010, 14:54

biffvernon wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Looks like Joe Romm at ClimateProgress is going to keep the world up to date on developments:
http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/01/o ... ons-a-day/
Watch the video half way down the article. It includes Palin saying "drill baby drill".

You can now get "spill baby spill" badges from Greenpeace...for your car bumper

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 03 May 2010, 15:11

careful_eugene wrote:
biffvernon wrote:First step is to lower a concrete funnel-like structure over the leak to catch the oil and pump it up to a ship. A couple of weeks to fabricate this structure. Meanwhile another hole is drilled as Ziggy says but that takes a couple of months.
Why concrete, steel would be easier to fabricate and take less time. Would this work and if so why aren't they talking about doing it?

Yeah, I think it is mostly steel. Then they have to drill a new hole into the top of the oil-bearing horizon (this was a 30000ft hole!), flood it first with sea water and then, if that get into the original hole it is followed with heavy mineral mud to hold the oil down and then concrete. It's never been done before at this depth.

Seems we can all blame Cheney (again) - he allowed drilling without the acoustic valves that the Norwegians insist on.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... dickcheney

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » 04 May 2010, 01:34

The spill is changing minds about off shore oil drilling:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8658825.stm

Totally_Baffled · Post by **Totally_Baffled** » 04 May 2010, 11:41

Kieran wrote:The spill is changing minds about off shore oil drilling:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8658825.stm

Of course I can understand Arnies concerns, and the changing of his mind, but is it a little hypocritical given then vast amount of oil Californians consume?

Will Arnie refuse to allow the use of offshore oil and related products in his state? (I doubt it!!!!)

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 04 May 2010, 11:51

whats this going to do to depletion rates

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 04 May 2010, 12:01

biffvernon wrote:
emordnilap wrote: Besides, I just wanted to get in first so that, if it does turn out to be huge, I can say I was right.
Hey! Who started this thread?

LOL

You said it was 'tragic' and 'didn't sound so good' (alright, you used the word 'disaster'). I wanted the real doomer credit.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 04 May 2010, 12:06

emordnilap wrote:
biffvernon wrote:
emordnilap wrote: Besides, I just wanted to get in first so that, if it does turn out to be huge, I can say I was right.
Hey! Who started this thread?
LOL

You said it was 'tragic' and 'didn't sound so good' (alright, you used the word 'disaster'). I wanted the real doomer credit.

Carnavvitt!! There's a Doomer Credit Crunch don't yer know

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 04 May 2010, 12:14

Just upped the limit on my 'Doomer' card so I can have a bit of spraoi (the Irish word for 'fun', pronounced 'spree' funnily enough) because I'm worth it.

ziggy12345 · Post by **ziggy12345** » 04 May 2010, 17:00

Just waiting for a mail on the exact problems on the rig. There were 7 executives from BP on the rig at the time attending a party to celebrate 7 years without a lost time accident.

From what I have been told over the phone gas at surface was sucked into the engine intakes and they exploded. This should not happen as the air intakes into the engines should have been protected by high gas shutdowns. more as I get it

Cheers

Aurora · Post by **Aurora** » 04 May 2010, 17:28

BBC News - 04/05/10

Welders in Louisiana are working against the clock to build a giant iron funnel for BP in a bid to halt the huge spill from a Gulf of Mexico well.

Article continues ...

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 04 May 2010, 17:43

ziggy12345 wrote:There were 7 executives from BP on the rig at the time attending a party to celebrate 7 years without a lost time accident.

Is the rig seven years old? Or are you talking about the whole of BP?