Just got this from the local library, RC. What did you think of the book, anyone?RenewableCandy wrote:I got given "A life stripped bare" (that chap in London trying to wipe out his C-footprint): been meaning to gat it for ages that was a class present!!
The Ethics of Christmas Presents
Moderator: Peak Moderation
-
emordnilap
- Posts: 14814
- Joined: 05 Sep 2007, 16:36
- Location: here
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
-
adam2
- Site Admin
- Posts: 10900
- Joined: 02 Jul 2007, 17:49
- Location: North Somerset, twinned with Atlantis
I see no harm in giving or receiving Christmas presents, provided that these are not needless consumer tat, but instead are either enjoyable consumables, or preps for the future, or energy/fuel saving.
Wine or spirits are acceptable to most other than teetotals or ex alcoholics.
Chocolate is tradditional and often welcomed (preferably from ethical suppliers)
Gifts I have given to less well prepared friends and family include candles, oil lanterns, torches, batteries, canned heat, hand tools, blankets, sleeping bags, chlorine tablets, and a small PV powered lighting system.
In years gone by I often gave low energy lamps as gifts, but these are now so cheap that they are not much of a present and many have a pile of free ones anyway.
Useful gifts received include shoes, boots, a Tilley table lamp, a duffle coat, a van full of Dexion shelving and plastic crates, and of course food and drink.
Wine or spirits are acceptable to most other than teetotals or ex alcoholics.
Chocolate is tradditional and often welcomed (preferably from ethical suppliers)
Gifts I have given to less well prepared friends and family include candles, oil lanterns, torches, batteries, canned heat, hand tools, blankets, sleeping bags, chlorine tablets, and a small PV powered lighting system.
In years gone by I often gave low energy lamps as gifts, but these are now so cheap that they are not much of a present and many have a pile of free ones anyway.
Useful gifts received include shoes, boots, a Tilley table lamp, a duffle coat, a van full of Dexion shelving and plastic crates, and of course food and drink.
"Installers and owners of emergency diesels must assume that they will have to run for a week or more"
Well.. feeling very seasonal for mid march we are.
I made sloe gin for everyone this year and altough I never actually went to see my mum at christmas I was extremely impressed with myself because I haven't cracked and drunk hers myself.. (even though its the last bottle!) and its still wrapped up in its recycled wrapping paper (as in recycled from something someone gave me last last year).
Then I went all the way to Norfolk the week before easter and forgot the sodding gin
I can't drink it though its a present for my mum... 5 months to sloe picking time... Its a long time to wait.
But yeah just coz the whole consumer horribleness of it all makes you want to eat your own face doesn't actually mean you can't give people presents.. its nice when you make them yourself and sticking to alchohol is always a good policy
I made sloe gin for everyone this year and altough I never actually went to see my mum at christmas I was extremely impressed with myself because I haven't cracked and drunk hers myself.. (even though its the last bottle!) and its still wrapped up in its recycled wrapping paper (as in recycled from something someone gave me last last year).
Then I went all the way to Norfolk the week before easter and forgot the sodding gin
I can't drink it though its a present for my mum... 5 months to sloe picking time... Its a long time to wait.
But yeah just coz the whole consumer horribleness of it all makes you want to eat your own face doesn't actually mean you can't give people presents.. its nice when you make them yourself and sticking to alchohol is always a good policy
-
emordnilap
- Posts: 14814
- Joined: 05 Sep 2007, 16:36
- Location: here
Bump.
emordnilap wrote:Just got this from the local library, RC. What did you think of the book, anyone?RenewableCandy wrote:I got given "A life stripped bare" (that chap in London trying to wipe out his C-footprint): been meaning to gat it for ages that was a class present!!
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker