Gas alert as demand and prices rise

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 30 Mar 2010, 00:25

adam2 wrote:Not quite falling of a cliff, but a more rapid decline than anyone but hard core doomers expected.

That means in just over 4 years the UK's gas production will have halved and down to a quarter in eight years. Yes. not quite falling of a cliff!!

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 30 Mar 2010, 00:28

snow hope wrote:Coldest, longest winter since 1962/63 round these parts........ just goes to prove that we can still get cold winters.....

And it's been a record warm winter in Western Canada and parts of the Arctic. So warm, in fact, that it nearly scuppered the Winter Olympics. Climate scientists have been saying that extreme weather events may become more common and that certainly holds for this winter.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 30 Mar 2010, 00:44

I've just been to see a City working client with a design for an extension to his house. I've designed it to PassivHaus levels of insulation and air tightness but he's asking how much we can trim off the insulation to get the cost down. He heats the house, which he admits is draughty and cold in winter, warm in summer, with oil, which he knows the price of and its volatility, yet he's still more concerned with building a bloody great house, which he knows he may not be able to heat, than building a house of a size and quality that doesn't need much heating.

You can lead a horse to water....

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 30 Mar 2010, 16:50

kenneal wrote:You can lead a horse to water....

...but a pencil must be lead.

Commiserations, kenneal. Keep the faith.

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 30 Mar 2010, 20:19

How's it going snow hope, it looks nasty on the news!! Are you living up to your username?!

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 30 Mar 2010, 23:01

Andy Hunt wrote:How's it going snow hope, it looks nasty on the news!! Are you living up to your username?!

He might be off grid at the moment!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8594268.stm

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 31 Mar 2010, 11:48

Well the garden is white and we are having blustery snow showers this morning. The winds were so bad last night that we were having power flickers every minute or so. Created havoc for internet access - not sure if the router has recovered but I had to re-config it this morning to get it working......

It is 1145 and the temp is 1.8c brrrrr.

Fire lit! Got the day off work.

Snug as a bug in a rug!

Norfolk In Chance · Post by **Norfolk In Chance** » 31 Mar 2010, 11:58

I was sent this recently...

THE DIARY OF AN ENGLISHMAN LIVING IN THE HIGHLANDS

"Our First Winter"

DEC 20th
It's starting to snow. The first of the season and the first we've seen
for years. The wife and I took out our hot toddies and sat on the porch
watching the fluffy soft flakes drift gently down clinging to the trees
and covering the ground. It's so beautiful and peaceful..

DEC 24th
We awoke to a lovely blanket of crystal white glistening snow covering as
far as the eye could see. What a fantastic sight, every tree and bush
covered with a beautiful white mantle. I shovelled snow for the first time
ever and loved it. I did both our driveway and the pavement. Later that
day a snowplough came along and accidentally covered up our driveway with
compacted snow from the street. The driver smiled and waved. I waved back
and shovelled it away again. The children next door built a snowman with
coal for eyes and a carrot for a nose, and had a snowball fight, a
couple just missed me and hit the car so I threw a couple back and joined
in their fun.

DEC 26th
It snowed an additional 5 inches last night and the temperature dropped
to around minus 8 degrees. Several branches on our trees and bushes
snapped due to the weight of the snow. I shovelled the driveway again.
Shortly afterwards the snowplough came by and did his trick again.
Much of the snow is now a brownish - grey.

JAN 1st
Warmed up enough during the day to create some slush which soon became
ice when the temperature dropped again. Bought snow tyres for both our
cars. Fell on my arse in the driveway. Went to a physio but nothing was broken.

JAN 5th
Still cold. Sold the wife's car and bought her a 4x4 to get her to work.
She slid into a wall and did considerable damage to the right wing. Had
another 8 inches of white shite last night. Both vehicles are covered in
salt and iced up slush That bastard snowplough came by twice today.
Where's that bloody shovel.

JAN 9th
More f***ing snow. Not a tree or bush on our property that hasn't been
damaged. Power was off most of the night. Tried to keep from freezing to
death with candles and a paraffin heater which tipped over and nearly
torched the house. I managed to put the flames out but suffered 2nd
degree burns on my hands. Lost all my eyebrows and eyelashes. Car hit a f***ing
deer on the way to casualty and car was written off.

JAN 13th
f***ing bastard white shite just keeps on coming down. Have to put on
every article of clothing just to go to the post box. The little gits
next door ambushed me with snowballs on the way back - I'll shove that
carrot so far up the little bastard's arse it'll take a good surgeon hours
to find it. If I ever catch the arsehole that drives the snowplough I'll chew
open his chest and rip out his heart with my teeth. I think the bastard
hides around the corner and waits for me to finish shovelling and then he
accelerates down the street like Michael Schufuckingmacher and buries the
f***ing driveway again.

JAN 17th
Sixteen more f***ing inches of f***ing snow and f***ing ice and f***ing
sleet and god knows what other white shite fell last night.. I am in court
in 3 months time for assaulting the snowplough driver with an ice-pick.
Can' t move my f***ing toes. Haven't seen the sun for 5 weeks.
Minus 20 and more f***ing snow forecast.

JAN 18th
F--k THIS, I'M MOVING BACK TO LONDON

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 31 Mar 2010, 12:04

Norfolk In Chance wrote:I was sent this recently...

THE DIARY OF AN ENGLISHMAN LIVING IN THE HIGHLANDS

"Our First Winter"

Quite like Wales really, except less snow, but more rain and mud.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 12 May 2010, 11:35

This cold weather is driving up the price of gas. Up to 45p/therm.

Medium range storage is being drawn down again, and the refill rate of long range storage has been cut.

Demand is approaching the cold extreme prediction for the time of year.

There is little sign of this run of northerly winds ending any time soon, our cold weather is coming straight from the arctic sea ice, which is being driven south and melting rapidly.

http://marketinformation.natgrid.co.uk/ ... lorer.aspx

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 16 Jun 2010, 14:59

European demand for UK gas to refill storage after last winter is pushing up the
price of gas again. Will we choose to sell gas to the highest bidder rather than reserve gas for our own winter needs?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... M8agttz5oM

Just to add to the fun

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/10329418.stm

Russia threatens to turn off the tap again.

Post by **clv101** » 16 Jun 2010, 15:19

Current storage is lower than this time last year...

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 16 Jun 2010, 18:49

Maybe but this thread's subject line is getting increasingly anachronistic.

Post by **mikepepler** » 20 Jun 2010, 17:32

Don't forget the summary page, with links to various graphs:
http://marketinformation.natgrid.co.uk/ ... gView.aspx

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 20 Jun 2010, 21:25

biffvernon wrote:Maybe but this thread's subject line is getting increasingly anachronistic.

Yes but in a few months' time it will acquire a certain retro chic.