'Tory madrasa' preaches radical message to would-be MP's

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'Tory madrasa' preaches radical message to would-be MP's

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The Guardian - 06/03/10

Tory parliamentary candidates have undergone training by a rightwing group whose leadership has described the NHS as "the biggest waste of money in the UK", claimed global warming is "a scam" and suggested that the waterboarding of prisoners can be justified.

At least 11 prospective Tory candidates, an estimated seven of whom have a reasonable chance of winning their seats, have been delegates or speakers at training conferences run by the Young Britons' Foundation, which claims to have trained 2,500 Conservative party activists.

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I recommend everyone have at least a quick read of that article.

If the Young Britons' Foundation really are the bunch of nutters they sound like why have they been allowed to have exposure to 2,500 Conservative party activists and at least 11 prospective Tory candidates?! :evil:

I thought when the going got tough it would be the BNP that would have to be watched.
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Absolutely. It's on the front page of the Guardian this morning.

Should be compulsory reading:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma ... foundation

and also:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... foundation

(No - don't move on till you've read it.)

Then search ybf on twitter. Very intersting.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=ybf
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Daniel Hannan MEP seems to be YBF President. A lot of people have been wondering why, with his views and his chumminess with Nigel Farage, he hasn't switched to UKIP. Perhaps the answer is he hopes to take over the Conservative Party.

Hannan recently launched the British Tea Party Movement:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/2 ... 78684.html

He has backing from the American sister organization and the Freedom Association. The US Tea Party lot has strong links to the neo-cons; Murdoch and Fox are really into them.

This looks nice, get your bookings in early, shame to miss:
The Young Britons’ Foundation’s Reagan-Thatcher Summer Conference Programme is a chance of a lifetime. Over three weeks you will get the chance to visit the heart of the American political scene, Washington D.C and the home of Ronald Reagan, Santa Barbara, California.

In your first week in the USA you will recieve the latest in activist skills and training whilst at the Leadership Institute.

In your second week you will attend the Young America’s Foundation, National Conservative Student Conference, hearing from speakers such as Newt Gingrinch, Ann Coulter and Michael Reagan. You will also get the opportunity to meet with like-minded American activists from around the USA.

http://www.ybf.org.uk/2010/03/05/ybf-in ... is-summer/
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It almost defies belief that people want to get rid of the NHS - look at the alternative run in the country they idolise.
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Yes but they're never going to get ill are they? At least, not til RC gets hold of them :evil:
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How do you Tories (and you know who you are :wink:) feel about this very revealing insight into Cameron's 'new' Conservative party?

An article by that annoyingly arrogant little sh1t, James Delingpole, appeared in the Telegraph on Monday entitled 'Why we need more conservative madrassas'.

His final comment?
But what we can try to do is restore some backbone to conservatism and – if this is what the YBF is trying to do then we should applaud it.

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Frightening isn't it?

See also: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/msalt ... derailing/
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I think most people who vote conservative won't look much further than 'cuddly Dave' and his loveable sidekick Boris.

I doubt the Daniel Hannans and John Redwoods will be paraded on our screens much in the next few months even though they and their followers will have an effect if the Tories get in.

Labour looks pretty clapped out but the Tories are still seen with a lot of suspicion. If they can't get in this time it will be a damning verdict on them.

I still think we're headed for a hung parliament.
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Cabrone wrote:I think most people who vote conservative won't look much further than 'cuddly Dave' and his loveable sidekick Boris.

I doubt the Daniel Hannans and John Redwoods will be paraded on our screens much in the next few months even though they and their followers will have an effect if the Tories get in.

Labour looks pretty clapped out but the Tories are still seen with a lot of suspicion. If they can't get in this time it will be a damning verdict on them.

I still think we're headed for a hung parliament.
I agree. I also think it's very strange that at this late stage of the game, most of the polls are showing only a 2 to 3 point lead in favour of the Conservatives.

This can only be a reflection of the fact that most people still view the Tories with a significant degree of mistrust.
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And the Tories are doing their best not to tread on any Ulster toes in case they need these 'allies'.

With their electoral pact firmly in place a vote for the Tories is a vote for the Ulster Unionist Party.
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