Scientists hit by climate doubt fallout

[jcw]

Lord Monckton interviewed by kingworldnews about CC post Copenhagen.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... ckton.html

Click on the microphone symbol to the left of the page to open the mp3 audio.

[Aurora]

Lord Monckton interviewed by kingworldnews about CC post Copenhagen.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... ckton.html

Click on the microphone symbol to the left of the page to open the mp3 audio.

Is Monckton really qualified to comment on AGW? I don't think so.

Wikipedia

Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (born 14 February 1952) is a British business consultant, policy adviser, writer, columnist, puzzle inventor and hereditary peer.

[RogueMale]

You misunderstand me RM, I wasn't implying that sexual attraction is random - far from it. Sexual selection is important in all higher animals, including humans. But clearly there is a social element as well.

I accept I misunderstood. I think we're now just disagreeing about the extent of social conditioning. I accept it plays a small part.

In Tonga obesity is (or at least, was) regarded as being the epitome of beauty.

Which doesn't prove it's socially determined. Tongan men might be born that way.

Also, see "Slim waist holds sway in history": http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6247625.stm. There's a good biological reason for it, but there are some individuals, and indeed a few societies (Tonga, Nauru, etc.) which go against the norm, but it still is a norm.

And indeed (bringing it back on topic) there's a climate change issue: the heavier a person is, the more CO2 emissions they're responsible for, other things being equal.

And not so very long ago, lack of body odour was thought to be rather peculiar (hence Napoleon's letter to Josephine, in which he wrote: "I will return to Paris tomorrow evening. Don't wash.").

I'm skeptical of this quote: while I've been aware of it for some time, it turns up in the context of personal hygiene but is generally absent from lists of quotations attributed to Napoleon.

[jcw]

Lord Monckton interviewed by kingworldnews about CC post Copenhagen.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... ckton.html

Click on the microphone symbol to the left of the page to open the mp3 audio.

Is Monckton really qualified to comment on AGW? I don't think so.

...

From the page I linked:

Christopher Walter Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, is a former Prime Ministerial adviser on scientific and domestic policy to Margaret Thatcher. In 1986 he advised her that "global warming" might be a problem and recommended that it be investigated. Two years later, Margaret Thatcher established the Hadley Centre for Prediction and Research. In 2007 a City institution invited Lord Monckton to advise it on whether "global warming" was a problem. Lord Monckton's 40-page report concluding that "global warming" would not, after all, be a global crisis was shown to the Editor of the Sunday Telegraph, who commissioned him to write two major articles on the subject. The first article attracted 127,000 hits to the Telegraph website in just two hours, causing it to crash. No other article ever printed by the Telegraph newspaper group has ever attracted so much interest in so short a time. Lord Monckton is recognized internationally as an expert on the climate question. He has had papers on the determination of climate sensitivity published in the reviewed literature and on the internet, and has given speeches, lectures and physics-faculty seminars on the subject all over the world.

Wikipedia is an unstable blog.

[Aurora]

A classic example of Margaret Thatcher exercising poor choice by appointing Monckton as one of her policy advisers.

To reiterate, Monckton does NOT hold a scientific qualification.

He was educated at Harrow School, Churchill College, Cambridge, where he received a BA (Honours) in classics in 1973, and an MA in 1974, and University College, Cardiff, where he obtained a diploma in Journalism Studies.

[RenewableCandy]

"men will bang anything, women are more choosy"

You obviously have never been out in Bury on a Saturday night . . .

D'you mean you lot are all perfect gentlemen, or that your female talent are a bunch of dogs? Anyways, it's the evolutionary psychologists I'm paraphrasing, not my personal opinion.

Perhaps you should invite a posse of them for a fact-finding tour of Bury?

[Andy Hunt]

"men will bang anything, women are more choosy"

You obviously have never been out in Bury on a Saturday night . . .

D'you mean you lot are all perfect gentlemen, or that your female talent are a bunch of dogs? Anyways, it's the evolutionary psychologists I'm paraphrasing, not my personal opinion.

Perhaps you should invite a posse of them for a fact-finding tour of Bury?

I've never noticed any discernable difference between the sexes when it comes to drunken Saturday night desperation.

Never seen two rough bitches smacking the cr@p out of each other over some two-timing townie tosser? You haven't lived.

[Aurora]

Roll up to see the Saturday night attractions in Bury.

[Andy Hunt]

[Bandidoz]

Cor that looks like a right muntfest - is that your Psy-Trance posse?

[jcw]

A classic example of Margaret Thatcher exercising poor choice by appointing Monckton as one of her policy advisers.

To reiterate, Monckton does NOT hold a scientific qualification.

He was educated at Harrow School, Churchill College, Cambridge, where he received a BA (Honours) in classics in 1973, and an MA in 1974, and University College, Cardiff, where he obtained a diploma in Journalism Studies.

Does that mean than I am unable ever to learn about classics because I hold scientific qualifications rather than a classics qualification?

[Aurora]

A classic example of Margaret Thatcher exercising poor choice by appointing Monckton as one of her policy advisers.

To reiterate, Monckton does NOT hold a scientific qualification.

He was educated at Harrow School, Churchill College, Cambridge, where he received a BA (Honours) in classics in 1973, and an MA in 1974, and University College, Cardiff, where he obtained a diploma in Journalism Studies.

Does that mean than I am unable ever to learn about classics because I hold scientific qualifications rather than a classics qualification?

No of course not.

However, Monckton is a misguided fool with a hidden agenda, a fact that has been repeatedly proven to my satisfaction.

See: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... ipulation/

He also keeps strange company in his choice of sponsors.

See: http://deepclimate.org/2009/09/22/frien ... tery-tour/

If you choose to see another side to the 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, that's your prerogative.

[Quintus]

Did anyone see this memorandum submitted to parliament by the Institute of Physics on the CRU e-mails?

The Institute is concerned that, unless the disclosed e-mails are proved to be forgeries or adaptations, worrying implications arise for the integrity of scientific research in this field and for the credibility of the scientific method as practised in this context.

February 2010
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... uc3902.htm

[jcw]

Did anyone see this memorandum submitted to parliament by the Institute of Physics on the CRU e-mails?

The Institute is concerned that, unless the disclosed e-mails are proved to be forgeries or adaptations, worrying implications arise for the integrity of scientific research in this field and for the credibility of the scientific method as practised in this context.

February 2010
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... uc3902.htm

6. There is also reason for concern at the intolerance to challenge displayed in the

e-mails. This impedes the process of scientific 'self correction', which is vital to the integrity of the scientific process as a whole, and not just to the research itself. In that context, those CRU e-mails relating to the peer-review process suggest a need for a review of its adequacy and objectivity as practised in this field and its potential vulnerability to bias or manipulation.

This is all very damaging.

[biffvernon]

Damaging to the Institute of Physics?