Always hated shopping anyway.
Of course, that ignores all the shopping I'm about to do to prep the house and garden

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woodburner wrote:Is this a euphemism for "going to hire a skip"?andrew-l wrote:Starting to trim back consumer parts of life is feeling good.
Or maybe you didn't spot the question mark at the end of my comment.woodburner wrote:Your words not mine. You may be able to play with the subtleties of the rhetorical, but you have a problem in reading what is written and not inferring something rather different.biffvernon wrote:You want to teach your kids how to kill people?
http://www.casa-mia.at/ungarn-immobilien.php/cPath/2UndercoverElephant wrote:tubaplayer wrote:I'm just coming on 62. I am slowly (very slowly, and with little help) resurrecting a derelict but livable property and land. I have just short of an acre. At the mo I am just growing stuff and storing for the winter.fifthcolumn wrote: Not to be a doomer, but have you looked at the price of land?
While I was going through my "oh fnck what do I do now phase" a couple of years back that exact idea crossed my mind. There was a plot of land right across the street from my front door, more or less an acre from the size of it.
They were asking ninety grand for it.
Agricultural land is much cheaper but you can't buy just a single acre or even two or three.
The other problem you have is that if you manage to get two or three acres outside the city, how are you going to defend it or travel to it without petrol or diesel?
In short the "back to the land" idea only works if you already did it before the exits closed.
Too late. The exits are shut.
Cost of the property here - well, £10.600 + expenses when I bought it. It's up a bit from that now because of the exchange rates. Will the children follow me WTSHTF? I don't know, but they are all at least Peak Oil aware.
Oh, and this is a village of some 300+ people and it is most definitely a _community_!
Now you're making me seriously consider leaving the UK. I am about to get a CELTA/WEAREDODGY qualification which would mean I can get a job almost anywhere teaching English to adults. I have £100K to use as a deposit, which isn't currently enough to buy a gardenless flat in many parts of the UK. What would it buy me in Hungary?
That's an interesting point. This thread, like myself, has concentrated on the big capital things - pension lump sums and properties with land. But there are also the small things and things which can be bought a bit at a time. Investing in equipment for the future - tools, clothes, etc - that will keep their worth is one investment, including removable installations such as solar panels and wind turbines (which don't increase a property's value relative to their installation cost). Another is investing time and money in acquiring skills on the job, voluntary if necessary, or at evening courses or college - or indeed with a Transition Town group or any group involved in strengthening the local community spirit.snow hope wrote:As I said, to a degree I am hedging my bets. I still think it is worth putting a bit aside every month for your retirement. The important bit is to put this money into something that does not lose value. This is the hard bit and the traditional places are no longer working! That does not mean we should all throw up our hands and never try to save anything towards our retirement. It just means we have to be a bit more careful where we deposit our monthly savings.
Would be nice, but many years ago I learned the lesson of "Nobody is indispensible". Surely far better to barter your knowledge in exchange for goods? If you make yourself indispensible then surely as hens lay eggs someone will spy/steal/acquire the knowledge and make you redundant.andrew-l wrote:Couldn't agree more - surely skills are the most transferable "pension" plan you can get. If you're indispensible to your community then surely they'll keep you alive