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What changes can we make to our lives to deal with the economic and energy crises ahead? Have you already started making preparations? Got tips to share?

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Vortex wrote: a sledge with a 'log grenade'.
Our Grenade got its first outing yesterday, it went rather well!
Vortex wrote: Having the logs etc on our front drive means that I can do a quick bit of sawing or splitting as I pass through .. even in a suit!
Done that in a wedding dress :) !! (olde continental tradition: bride and groom use a 2-handled saw. You might have seen it in Germany?)
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Why won't you use a chainsaw Vortex? I'm not saying you should, just interested as to why.

We have no choice, as there's no alternative as fast and effective for felling trees (we've done it with bowsaws...). Of course, if wood was worth a lot more and I did coppicing full time then maybe we could do it by hand - perhaps some time in the future?

In the meantime, a chainsaw lets us process firewood quickly - I'll post the little video I made again:
http://peplers.blogspot.com/2008/10/fir ... utumn.html
This autumn I'll be doing this with a 28" bar instead of the 15" on much bigger stacks of logs!
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Why won't you use a chainsaw Vortex? I'm not saying you should, just interested as to why.
Fear!

Someone told me recently (maybe it was a post here?) that they have worked on lots of large building sites full of deadly kit ... and yet the only item banned is the ... chainsaw!

That is a fairly strong hint!
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mikepepler wrote:Back in February I was interviewed for Radio 4 Costing the earth. Well, it was on last night, in an episode about biomass heating.
I heard it on listen again yesterday, nice one Mike. One day I'll get round to installing a stove! The bit about the new biomass power station in Wales getting its wood chips from North America was a bit strange wasn't it. Apparently the energy balance is not too bad compared with UK biomass but quite hard to believe.
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Vortex wrote:
Why won't you use a chainsaw Vortex? I'm not saying you should, just interested as to why.
Fear!

Someone told me recently (maybe it was a post here?) that they have worked on lots of large building sites full of deadly kit ... and yet the only item banned is the ... chainsaw!

That is a fairly strong hint!
Chainsaws rarely kill people, it's the falling trees that do it.

I believe that the saws banned from the building sites were the horrible one-handed type, much used and abused by chippies to put in floor and roof joists. I wouldn't touch one of those, especially on dried wood.

On green wood a normal chainsaw is very controllable.
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On green wood a normal chainsaw is very controllable.
Its probably irrational, but I dont even like using the stihl saws. I have done, but I'd prefer something smaller, even if its technicaly less safe, like an angle grinder.
I've shattered a disc on a grinder and kept the tool steady, if a chainsaw jumped, I have little faith I could stop it.
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DominicJ wrote:
On green wood a normal chainsaw is very controllable.
Its probably irrational, but I dont even like using the stihl saws. I have done, but I'd prefer something smaller, even if its technicaly less safe, like an angle grinder.
I've shattered a disc on a grinder and kept the tool steady, if a chainsaw jumped, I have little faith I could stop it.
The trick DJ, is to immediately throw your body on the chainsaw to stop the jump.
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I use a good quality bow saw and standard (long) handsaw for all my cutting of logs and pallets. I recently purchased an 18" crowbar (jimmy) and a 2.5lb club hammer - helps to take the pallets apart. I also have a full size Maul for splitting logs and a sledgehammer for helping the maul when necessary (back of the maul has a flat edge)

Asda are doing reasonable Forks and Spades (with roll over edge for foot pressure) for £6 each or 2 for £10 - I haven't seen better value, so go get them. :)

I decided not to go for a chainsaw, as for my volumes I could get away with a good bit of manual effort. I wouldn't go the chainsaw route unless I really had the need AND had done the appropriate training first.
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snow hope wrote:Asda are doing reasonable Forks and Spades (with roll over edge for foot pressure) for £6 each or 2 for £10 - I haven't seen better value, so go get them. :)
My daughter bought a cheap fork from Homebase last week and first time of using one of the tines bent to such an extent that it stands up on its own as if it is a tripod.

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Yes, common problem with cheap garden forks - I have used the fork from Asda, quite strong, certainly not as weak as some of the crappy ones you can get - no bent prongs so far. :) Will update you in a couple of weeks when it has had a real good going over!
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Vortex wrote:
Why won't you use a chainsaw Vortex? I'm not saying you should, just interested as to why.
Fear!

Someone told me recently (maybe it was a post here?) that they have worked on lots of large building sites full of deadly kit ... and yet the only item banned is the ... chainsaw!

That is a fairly strong hint!
But with the right training and protective equipment it's a safe tool to use, and as Catweazle said, it's the trees that kill people - chainsaws just cut them...
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Vortex wrote:
Why won't you use a chainsaw Vortex? I'm not saying you should, just interested as to why.
Fear!

Someone told me recently (maybe it was a post here?) that they have worked on lots of large building sites full of deadly kit ... and yet the only item banned is the ... chainsaw!

That is a fairly strong hint!
But once the land has been cleared, what use would a chainsaw be on a building site?
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snow hope wrote:I also have a full size Maul for splitting logs and a sledgehammer for helping the maul when necessary (back of the maul has a flat edge)
The maul is one of those 'perfect for the job' tools.
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emordnilap wrote:
Vortex wrote:
Why won't you use a chainsaw Vortex? I'm not saying you should, just interested as to why.
Fear!

Someone told me recently (maybe it was a post here?) that they have worked on lots of large building sites full of deadly kit ... and yet the only item banned is the ... chainsaw!

That is a fairly strong hint!
But once the land has been cleared, what use would a chainsaw be on a building site?
Carpenters used them on roof and floor joists, bad idea.
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Catweazle wrote:
emordnilap wrote:
Vortex wrote: Fear!

Someone told me recently (maybe it was a post here?) that they have worked on lots of large building sites full of deadly kit ... and yet the only item banned is the ... chainsaw!

That is a fairly strong hint!
But once the land has been cleared, what use would a chainsaw be on a building site?
Carpenters used them on roof and floor joists, bad idea.
Mental. I presume there are a few 3 limbed carpenters about then......
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