UK ‘safe havens’ in the coming years

[fifthcolumn]

Fifth is right, in any collapse we will have slim chance,
prepared or not.

I agree with his view of the future. I hope he's right.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Which view of the future do you agree with since I am split personality between roaming zombie hordes, mass death and mayhem and a bright technotopia with traffic jams of electric cars on the M25 and gleaming high speed electric supertrains and electric scooter delivered pizzas on the other hand.

[JonB]

Fifth is right, in any collapse we will have slim chance,
prepared or not.

I agree with his view of the future. I hope he's right.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Which view of the future do you agree with since I am split personality between roaming zombie hordes, mass death and mayhem and a bright technotopia with traffic jams of electric cars on the M25 and gleaming high speed electric supertrains and electric scooter delivered pizzas on the other hand.

Hopefully the latter!

[GordyJ1984]

thats a bit out of date mate

the main paramilitaries are gangs running drugs

Dissident republicans amy pose a small problem but they are a small organisation maybe 300 individuals

Yes it may take a few weeks to get all the undesirables to riot and starve but a move back to rural ireland is possible.

Depends if its slow or quick. A slow decline would be better to live in a city to be close to work ie walk or cycle. Fast decline up sticks and hit the countryside if you have the skills, then fight for what you want and take all you need

[Ludwig]

Cant someone walk John O groates to Lands End inside a week?
A two litre bottle for water and a back pack of good food and you can probably make it.

It's 874 miles. You'd need to walk 125 miles a day.

[chris25]

Cant someone walk John O groates to Lands End inside a week?
A two litre bottle for water and a back pack of good food and you can probably make it.

It's 874 miles. You'd need to walk 125 miles a day.

Has anyone tried walking when starving?

The other day I skiped a few meals and felt so weak, that if I had tried to walk even for a few miles, I'm pretty sure I would have collapsed.

Then imagine your like 99% of the population and don't know any wild foods or even how to skin an animal.

Why the hell would you go to the countryside?

Would be a lot easier to get a crow bar and go down to the local Tesco's or raid a politicians gated house.

The biggest threat in the countryside is house-raiding armed gangs in motor vehicles. The first target is isolated housing and farms. In Argentina farms were raided, inhabitants were tied up and everything was stripped bare from houses. This is what will happen. The masses will stay put and riot in the cities. Slums will span the suburbs and rural-urban fringes, where desperete people from rural communities move to the city in search for scavenging food.

[DominicJ]

It's 874 miles. You'd need to walk 125 miles a day.

Ok, thats a bit further than I thought, even so, 50 miles a day, brings it to two and a half weeks.
Even so, a backpack full of food and a two litre bottle for filling up with water, I think it could be done.
But more important measures
Liverpool to South Wales?
London to Norfolk?

The other day I skiped a few meals and felt so weak, that if I had tried to walk even for a few miles, I'm pretty sure I would have collapsed.

I skip meals on a regular basis, dont eat breakfast ever, lunch at work is variable, on occaision I just cant be bothered cooking tea.
I've been to the Gym one night when I've not eaten since the previous evening, felt really bad afterwards, but did 500calories

When starving, would someone bother to skin an animal? Or would they see some sheep in a field, surround one, bash its head in with a rock and eat it raw?

[kenneal - lagger]

When starving, would someone bother to skin an animal? Or would they see some sheep in a field, surround one, bash its head in with a rock and eat it raw?

A few might, many wouldn't.

Having said that, a team of Argentinian rugby players, who's plane crashed in the Andes, ate their dead team members to stay alive. There would be a lot of pier pressure amongst a bunch of rugby players to conform, so that might be an unusual situation.