Newest Peak, 2008

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 13 Mar 2009, 19:53

fifthcolumn wrote: So to say we're not doomers here, is well, a little bit of a porky....

To be fair I've not worked out where you lie on the Doom Scale (is there a word for a unit of Doom I wonder? Is it a linear scale or a log one?..). Though that might just be because you haven't either...

But I would venture that, taken on average, PS-ers are a less doomizt lot than LATOC-ers.

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 13 Mar 2009, 19:55

fifthcolumn wrote:
RenewableCandy wrote: RGR I don't think that you have quite grasped that this is a UK site. There's no "rapture" in the UK and no head-for-the-hills-type survivalism.
Of course, we *do* have the best apocalypses movies of all time made here "28 days/months later" as well as "On the Beach" and there is of course powerswitch's very own Alex Scarrow.

The American doomers have *some* survivors. We're a tad more morbid.

So to say we're not doomers here, is well, a little bit of a porky....

Who said we are not doomers (or some of us anyway)?

Read the paragraph you quoted!

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 13 Mar 2009, 19:59

Catweazle wrote:
Complete Bollox wrote:Technicality? I would mention that peak oil has been claimed to be the trigger for the end of the world, might be a technicality to YOU but some have built their entire reputation on this event being the trigger for rapturous mass starvation, reversal of the earths magnetic poles, lack of sunspots, etc etc.
You'll have to start using more smileys, it's getting too difficult to separate your ironic bollox from your normal bollox.

AndySir · Post by **AndySir** » 13 Mar 2009, 22:42

RGR wrote:
AndySir wrote:Fellow on the peak oil debunked blog you linked seems to think that this will be the last one, mainly because of economic collapse. Will your signature grow any further RGR?
Thats really the question, isn't it?

How many false alarms, non geologic events masquerading as peaks, artificial peaks related to infrastructure, etc etc are there supposed to be while we are all waiting around for THE peak.

AndySir wrote:
I strongly suspect I've messed up that quote, but I do have to wonder what the practical difference is between geological and economic peak of oil. I liked the quote earlier about people only abandoning earlier strategies when the EROEI fell below alternatives, it seems a reasonable hypothesis.

I do understand that the concept of Peak Oil is based on a statistical analysis with its concomitant error bars, but I wonder if that is relevant to the decisions we have to make in the near future.

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 13 Mar 2009, 23:42

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Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 14 Mar 2009, 05:21

RGR wrote:TOD has some interesting graphs .............

Talking of graphs RGR, could you please provide us with a graph of your peaks, mbbl/day (Y) against time, years (X) as you obviously have all the figures to hand? We might not be approaching Peak Oil but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we weren't approaching Peak Peaks. ':D'

Totally_Baffled · Post by **Totally_Baffled** » 14 Mar 2009, 11:41

Simmons must be a little embarassed about his comments in 2004 regarding US natural gas too!

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 14 Mar 2009, 14:25

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snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 15 Mar 2009, 19:39

kenneal wrote:
RGR wrote:TOD has some interesting graphs .............
Talking of graphs RGR, could you please provide us with a graph of your peaks, mbbl/day (Y) against time, years (X) as you obviously have all the figures to hand? We might not be approaching Peak Oil but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we weren't approaching Peak Peaks. ':D'

Hey Ken, I think RGR must be struggling....

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 15 Mar 2009, 21:51

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AndySir · Post by **AndySir** » 15 Mar 2009, 22:55

First time posting an image, so hope that works. Bear in mind that's the all liquids, so includes NGL's and unconventional oil. Here's crude:

If that doesn't work, here's the oildrum article... http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/4152

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 15 Mar 2009, 23:04

That shows that peak oil was July 2008. What's to talk about?

RGR · Post by **RGR** » 15 Mar 2009, 23:43

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snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 16 Mar 2009, 09:55

RGR - you sure you aren't a *anker?

Next you'll be telling us there was a peak in 2002, 2003 (2), 2004 (2), 2005, 2006, 2007, etc. (from the other graphs posted)

Do you really think we are all stupid?

You are a bit like my youngest son - everybody is wrong and he is right.......

I know that one day he will see sense, but I am not so sure about you.....

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 16 Mar 2009, 10:13

snow hope wrote:RGR - you sure you aren't a *anker?

I thought he worked in the oil industry, not banking