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Carbon emissions

Posted: 29 Mar 2007, 12:09
by biffvernon
Defra has just released some interesting figures:
http://www.defra.gov.uk/news/2007/070329a.htm

Posted: 29 Mar 2007, 13:32
by isenhand
I wonder how much of the reduction results from shifting manufacturing to China?

:)

Posted: 29 Mar 2007, 13:43
by biffvernon
Good point. I notice that
It takes into account net emissions from...the UK Overseas Territories of Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands, Gibraltar and Montserrat.
So if we could just include China in the Empire... :)

Posted: 29 Mar 2007, 21:18
by Billhook
Given that these "net emissions" include those from overseas territories,

they surely should include the effect of the plankton carbon sink within our territorial waters,

but then, until there are common global standards of accounting such emissions,

and a sufficient carbon accountancy capacity for a wide range of ecologies under the full spectrum of weather effects,

I guess the whole excercise will remain a matter of spin rather than substance.

Regards,

Bill

Posted: 29 Mar 2007, 22:07
by biffvernon
Yes, and rumour has it that all the post Kyoto emission savings we've achieved have been cancelled out by increasing emissions from peaty soil being drained high in the Cambrian Mountains and elsewhere. I do hope you're blocking up your drains and ditches, Billhook?

Posted: 29 Mar 2007, 23:59
by Billhook
On the contrary - I'm happily restoring them to full working order as swiftly as possible,

both in the interest of food production -

and, not least, out of respect for the extraordinary diligence of those who dug many miles of deep ditches and stone-lined drains
through boulder strewn soil . . .

meanwhile the idiot BBC are claiming that UK has 15% of world peat area,

and that that holds a mere 3 times the carbon of the world's forests

which is sheer shameless sensationalist bullshit,

particularly given that the issue of whether carbon is released as CO2 or CH4 changes the warming impact potentially 29 fold.

I suspect that govt (and co-opted NGOs such as National Trust) seek the use of the UK uplands as a sponge
in order to try to maintain house building / insurance cover in flood-prone lowlands.

Why else would they want a licence filled in whenever I clear even a metre of ditch ?

Regards,

Bill

Posted: 30 Mar 2007, 05:50
by isenhand
I also wonder how long it will take for our economy to grow to a point that it wipes out any savings made?