General Election Dec 2019 thread

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Dec 2019, 20:17

clv101 wrote:The odds of a hung parliament have been shortening all day, now the pound is falling against the Dollar. It's starting to look like the Tories have fluffed it again, lack of policies, hiding from scrutiny and a fire hose of lies... maybe not the best approach?

I am not letting myself get my hopes up. Still expecting a slim tory majority until I see an exit poll predicting a hung parliament.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Dec 2019, 20:54

Lots of rumours that the tories are heading for a nightmare in London. Possibly doing better than expected in the north-east.

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:03

368 for Tories?

Post by **clv101** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:08

Just wow, an 86 majority.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:10

"wow"?

Seriously?

You delusional twits. And I am not just aiming that at you CLV or, even primarily at you. To be honest, you have been more circumspect of late. But, seriously, what the F--k did you expect?

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:10

Looks like the ' get brexit done' message got through.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:15

Cue the neolib talking heads in the Labour party alongside all the socially liberal petite bourgeois useful idiots in the membership all telling us that the reason Labour lost the election is because they were too left wing. Not because they betrayed the working class Leave vote. Oh, goodness me no.

I f***ing despair.

Post by **clv101** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:16

Little John wrote:"wow"?

Seriously?

You delusional twits. And I am not just aiming that at you CLV or, even primarily at you. To be honest, you have been more circumspect of late. But, seriously, what the F--k did you expect?

There was very little evidence of that kind of majority - especially with a Tory collapse in Scotland. This majority, if real, is higher than any of the polls indicated. That's where my 'wow' comes from. Yet another polling failure.

stumuz1 · Post by **stumuz1** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:18

Dominic Cummings will be happy. Again.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:19

So it was a brexit election after all, and the primary cause of the result is the remainers who refused to accept the result of the first referendum. All those people who marched through London thinking that if there was 100,000 of them and they shouted loudly enough it would justify ignoring the referendum. Tom Watson and Emily Thornberry, refusing to accept Corbyn's sensible policy of accepting the result and resisting a second referendum. Jo Swinson and the liberal undemocrats going for a straight revoke, which forced Labour to switch to a second referendum.

Labour lost its leave vote, and it isn't Corbyn's fault because he did everything in his power to prevent it happening. He is a euroskeptic, after all.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:24

For once I agree with you UE. Dumb remainers destroyed Corbyn's prospects at this ge.

Greer called this.

So uk will Brexit but Scotland will go independent this decade. Another greer forecast proven right.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:30

Lord Beria3 wrote:For once I agree with you UE. Dumb remainers destroyed Corbyn's prospects at this ge.

Greer called this.

So uk will Brexit but Scotland will go independent this decade. Another greer forecast proven right.

Johnson won't let the SNP have a second independence referendum, and Labour will rule it out at the next election.

Post by **adam2** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:33

clv101 wrote:Just wow, an 86 majority.

Only a forecast of course, but this is a forecast based on actual exit polls.
I will be surprised if the forecast of an 86 majority is badly inaccurate.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:41

UndercoverElephant wrote:So it was a brexit election after all, and the primary cause of the result is the remainers who refused to accept the result of the first referendum. All those people who marched through London thinking that if there was 100,000 of them and they shouted loudly enough it would justify ignoring the referendum. Tom Watson and Emily Thornberry, refusing to accept Corbyn's sensible policy of accepting the result and resisting a second referendum. Jo Swinson and the liberal undemocrats going for a straight revoke, which forced Labour to switch to a second referendum.

Labour lost its leave vote, and it isn't Corbyn's fault because he did everything in his power to prevent it happening. He is a euroskeptic, after all.

Bullshit.

At best, Corbyn is useless because he is a harmless man, meaning he was psychologically incapable of ruthlessly doing what was necessary. At worst, he got a sniff of power and decided it was worth ditching all of his previously espoused principle because of it on the basis that the poor would just keep on voting for Labour out of political habit. This entire election has been like watching a half arsed re-run of the 2016 US elections with the same depressingly predictable outcome.

One thing is clear. Petite beurgoise liberals are stupid and this is especially true of "left wing" liberals. They are really f*cking stupid.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 12 Dec 2019, 22:59

Little John wrote:
At best, Corbyn is useless because he is a harmless man, meaning he was psychologically incapable of ruthlessly doing what was necessary.

What do you think he could have done which would have resulted in Labour winning tonight?? What was necessary to win power, without which he can't do anything else that matters?