Me neither.oobers wrote:I've not received my ballot paper yet ��
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UndercoverElephant
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I've recieved something from the Labour Party a couple of days ago, but I don't know what it is cos I am 50 miles north of home doing a house up we just bought. I might give our lass a ring and get her to open it and see if it is my voting card or if it is, as many people are reporting, informing me I cannot be a member of the labour party and so cannot vote on the leadership election.
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Oh wait that describes the American system as well.-
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Well this is interesting, isn't it?
I still haven't received my ballot paper, and it is quite obvious that we are seeing a deliberate attempt to rig the election so Corbyn doesn't win, in full view of the media and the public. In doing so, the Blairites at the top of the Labour party are completely alienating both large numbers of disillusioned people who previously weren't voting, or were voting Green or UKIP, but want to back Corbyn and thousands of their own grass roots supporters and activitists.
These people - the ones who are orchestrating the rigging - must have lost their minds. If Corbyn doesn't win and the widespread perception is that the reason he didn't win was because the election was rigged via a McCarthyite "purge" of anyone suspected of being a Corbyn supporter, then we are going to be left with a parliamentary labour party that has divorced itself from its own branch members, activists, supporters and voters. The whole point in doing this, according to them, is to "be electable". But what the **** does this mean? Apparently it means trying to appeal to soft/left tories, and assume that the socialists are all going to vote for them anyway, regardless of what happened in Scotland in May and what is happening in the rest of the UK in response to Corbyn's candidacy. These people have lost the plot. What they are trying to do is not going to make Labour more electable. It is either going to cause a massive split, where most of the members follow Corbyn and the MPs end up being the head of a party that has become detached from its body, or it will drive a very large proportion of Labour members and voters into the hands of the Greens, UKIP, SNP and anyone else who isn't Labour.
That they'd even try to get away with it is pure insanity.
I still haven't received my ballot paper, and it is quite obvious that we are seeing a deliberate attempt to rig the election so Corbyn doesn't win, in full view of the media and the public. In doing so, the Blairites at the top of the Labour party are completely alienating both large numbers of disillusioned people who previously weren't voting, or were voting Green or UKIP, but want to back Corbyn and thousands of their own grass roots supporters and activitists.
These people - the ones who are orchestrating the rigging - must have lost their minds. If Corbyn doesn't win and the widespread perception is that the reason he didn't win was because the election was rigged via a McCarthyite "purge" of anyone suspected of being a Corbyn supporter, then we are going to be left with a parliamentary labour party that has divorced itself from its own branch members, activists, supporters and voters. The whole point in doing this, according to them, is to "be electable". But what the **** does this mean? Apparently it means trying to appeal to soft/left tories, and assume that the socialists are all going to vote for them anyway, regardless of what happened in Scotland in May and what is happening in the rest of the UK in response to Corbyn's candidacy. These people have lost the plot. What they are trying to do is not going to make Labour more electable. It is either going to cause a massive split, where most of the members follow Corbyn and the MPs end up being the head of a party that has become detached from its body, or it will drive a very large proportion of Labour members and voters into the hands of the Greens, UKIP, SNP and anyone else who isn't Labour.
That they'd even try to get away with it is pure insanity.
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Finian Cunningham: British Establishment in Destroy Mode
Anyone with anti-austerity policies has gained much support because of the failure of austerity and that we are not all in it together.
It also reveals how increasingly out of touch with reality the Westminster bubble has become
This is a great unsaid - this leadership contest has revealed the paucity of "democratic" choice that we have in the UK.Finian Cunningham wrote: Ballots have gone out to Labour members and the outcome of the party election will be known in four weeks’ time. Already the British media campaign to discredit Corbyn is well underway. The slander and vilification being fired at the 66-year-old politician is going to get even more vicious over the next month. And if he wins, as the polls suggest, we can expect a full-on media war to destroy him over the next five years towards Britain’s 2020 general election.
What this reveals, starkly, is just how undemocratic Britain is. Any politician who steps outside the establishment is liable for destruction by the ruling forces.
The thing is that the more the British media attempt to besmirch Corbyn, the more his popularity grows, especially among younger voters, who have lately signed up in droves to join the Labour Party in order to vote for him.
Anyone with anti-austerity policies has gained much support because of the failure of austerity and that we are not all in it together.
It also reveals how increasingly out of touch with reality the Westminster bubble has become
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools - Douglas Adams.
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