General Election May 2015

What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?

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Ouch...

UKIP 90% Conservatives 76% BNP 70% LibDems 62% Labour 60%

Green 31%

Can't see me voting UKIP somehow; like Ken I'd probably vote for my own MP.
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biffvernon wrote:90% Green 9% Conservative :)

Hmmm.... not quite sure why I didn't get 100% Green in this one. There must have been an ambiguous question somewhere. :)
If you look at how you compare to the greens, you might find that either they couldn't determine the green answer or the manifesto gives a clouded answer rather than a straight one.

I got 88% green - one of the questions, "Do you support the use of genetically engineered crops and foods?" My answer is a flat no. The greens use political verbiage to answer the question. I prefer my answer. :lol:

I also got 81% with labour, though their manifesto is not a good place to get answers - the opposition is named so because, when in government, they do the opposite. The questionnaire can, in the case of the smaller parties, only look at words, not deeds, so must fail.
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There was an additional variable in the survey; the sliders indicating how important you felt the issue was for each question. Plus there was the opportunity to choose different response-options, or even to add your own response. I wonder how the algorithm dealt with these?
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Tarrel wrote:There was an additional variable in the survey; the sliders indicating how important you felt the issue was for each question.
All the questions are about current issues that affect someone if not you, so in some ways it's selfish to appoint degrees of gravity. So the importance to me personally was to a large extent irrelevant.

They're all areas in which the government meddles, so are all equal for that reason.
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Yeah, I just set the slider to max for everything. Fences are not for sitting on.
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AutomaticEarth wrote:... Can't see me voting UKIP somehow; like Ken I'd probably vote for my own MP.
What if he/she turns UKIP? Can't see mine doing that but...
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I don't think UKIP are going to be a major power broker in the election. They are ahead of Lib/Dem and Greens in the polls, but they are too diffuse to get more than a handful of MPs, probably less than the Lib/Dems who will get a few re-elected on their individual constituency record.

UKIP show all the signs of being a protest vote party for the socially challenged. Their core constituency and the older poor voter. People who would suffer more than any other group under UKIP policies. They will get their biggest turnouts in safe Tory seats where they don't stand an earthly.

The young are backing greens in large numbers, but unfortunately the young are notoriously bad at actually voting.
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Larf of the day. Thanks Biff. :lol:

BTW, does Ayling rhyme with Palin?
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There is an extraordinary similarity in these two women.
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It's the UKiP - is it Ayling? :lol:
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kenneal - lagger wrote:
AutomaticEarth wrote:... Can't see me voting UKIP somehow; like Ken I'd probably vote for my own MP.
What if he/she turns UKIP? Can't see mine doing that but...
Very unlikely he'll turn UKIP, but if he did I'd probably vote Green :lol:
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Apparently John Prescott is coming back to the Labour cause. Thoughts anyone?
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It's a mark of the pressure on Labour from the Greens - bring Prescott in to pretend that they are taking global warming seriously.
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