Conservative party/opposition watch

[BritDownUnder]

Both parents, in our quite wealthy household, were members of Trade Unions and I was told by my school careers teacher that this is why I was turned down for a government university scholarship at the MOD. Clearly the children of trade unionists were more likely to be traitors in the government's view.

As for the Cambridge Spy Ring it is those public school educated Oxbridge socialists that you have to watch.

I think Harold Wilson and Jeremy Corbin are two Labour leaders who have been speculated as being Soviet agents. Not too sure how many alleged Soviet Moles in the Conservative Party but I can't think of any. in Australia I can only think of one Australian (Labor of course) MP who was a proven Chinese agent of influence that was not actually ethnic Chinese.

Yes Red Ken Livingston was pretty supportive of the IRA from what I remember. You can talk to terrorists a bit too early in my opinion. It probably took the combined efforts of Bill Clinton and Unionist terror attacks against the IRA to get them to properly negotiate the Downing Street agreement.

Very true that Australia has sold many assets to foreign countries but was due to a shortage of Australian capital and tax revenues as much as a treasonist attitude among the various levels of Australian governments. I tend to think it is more one of naivety on the part of Australians. The Australian Pension Superannuation Funds flush with compulsory employer contributions of 12% of salaries are starting to win back the capital investment war. China has been effectively banned from a lot of capital projects over here.

Australian industry has been 'trashed' by a combination of carelessly negotiated free trade agreements and the logic of putting car manufacturing and the like in places like Thailand rather than Australia due to much lower labour costs. My 13 year old Nissan pickup truck was made in Thailand and I can't fault it. Australians can't help having some of the highest wages and highest median net worth in the world. I am happy to buy my EV from a place like Korea that is a good and reliable trade partner of Australia.

[Mark]

William Wragg: MP tells paper he is sorry for sharing private phone numbers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68731683

An example of a Tory 'traitor' ?
We're so numbed to this kind of idiot that it hardly makes news any more...
At least he didn't say that he was looking at tractor websites...

[Ralphw2]

So a Tory mp is blackmailed by a honeypot trap, divulges confidential information to keep them quiet, and then gets praised for his honesty by is peers when he comes clean after it was clear he was going to get found out.

I wonder what his constituents would say.

[Mark]

I wonder what his constituents would say.

Mr Wragg became an MP for the Greater Manchester constituency of Hazel Grove in 2015.
In 2022, he announced he would not be running in the next election.

Suspect the LDs will reclaim Hazel Grove at the GE....

[Ralphw2]

Wragg resigns the party whip. Will now sit out the parliament as an independant. I guess the Tories really do not want yet another by election at this late stage.

[BritDownUnder]

Might be a good idea for a member of the security services to 'shadow' each MP and read all their communications in case they get the country into trouble. Mind you there was that 'openly gay' employee of GCHQ who got themselves murdered and zipped inside a sports bag. Or that Conservative MP/Television commentator who managed to strangle themselves to death while wearing ladies stockings on their own kitchen table.

Perhaps - shock horror - there should be some kind of morality police investigating our public figures before they go and get themselves, and the country, into trouble.

Perhaps people who finish their terms as MPs without resigning get some kind of lifelong benefit, like a pension or free business class flights for life, on the taxpayer of course.

People who are daft enough to vote these people in are somewhat to blame too.

[Mark]

Honeytrap Tory MP right to apologise, says Rishi Sunak:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68773702

That makes everything OK then Rishi ?
Anyone want to employ a 36 year old ex Tory MP with a first-class history degree ?

[mr brightside]

People who are daft enough to vote these people in are somewhat to blame too.

Present company excepted, of course?

[BritDownUnder]

People who are daft enough to vote these people in are somewhat to blame too.

Present company excepted, of course?

Been out the country for 25 years so an emphatic "Not Guilty" for me.

[Mark]

Graham Stuart quits role as energy security and net zero minister:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68797259

Net Zero UK - 11 Energy Ministers in 10 years - there will be another later this year too.

But still wanting to defend his seat at the GE....
Not sure what's happening with this mini wave of Ministerial resignations ?
Is there still a covert plan to unseat Sunak before the GE ?

[Mark]

Yet another dodgy Tory geezer...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68841840

[clv101]

And another one ...

­A Tory MP and former health minister has staged a dramatic defection to Labour, saying the Conservatives have become a “nationalist party of the right” that has abandoned ­compassion and no longer prioritises the NHS.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dApp_Other

[clv101]

Ex-Tory MP Dan Poulter makes a good point here:

“One of the things I really like about Labour party policy on the NHS is the focus on the social determinants of poor health and actually recognising that tackling poverty, poor housing, all those issues, particularly giving children from poorer backgrounds better chances and focusing on child health,” he said. “That is something Labour understands that the Conservatives really don’t – and that, for me, is something that makes the Labour party the party that can be trusted with delivering the reforms that are needed to get the NHS back on its feet.”

[UndercoverElephant]

Ex-Tory MP Dan Poulter makes a good point here:

“One of the things I really like about Labour party policy on the NHS is the focus on the social determinants of poor health and actually recognising that tackling poverty, poor housing, all those issues, particularly giving children from poorer backgrounds better chances and focusing on child health,” he said. “That is something Labour understands that the Conservatives really don’t – and that, for me, is something that makes the Labour party the party that can be trusted with delivering the reforms that are needed to get the NHS back on its feet.”

So why has he been a tory until now? It's too late for a Damascene conversion.

[clv101]

Absolutely, I'm making no excuses or apologies for any Tory who, at the 11th hour finds a conscience!