General Election May 2015

What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?

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I did their loaded quiz and guess where I came on the grid? bottom left obviously. The questions have limited agendas themselves and will just tar us with the same brush.
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emordnilap wrote: Presumably they are the same questions. Can someone tell me why the different positions?
My guess is that the two tests were done by a two human beings interpreting the policies in the light of the questions.
Where a question can be answered with a 'strongly' or a 'moderately' it's a thin line between which one might tick but the 'moderately' scores closest to the centre and the 'strongly' takes you towards the corners.

Being a person of stout opinion I scored right in the corner. Others with a similar political outlook might be a bit to the north-east of me. (Like the Green Party) :)
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biffvernon wrote:
emordnilap wrote: Presumably they are the same questions. Can someone tell me why the different positions?
My guess is that the two tests were done by a two human beings interpreting the policies in the light of the questions.
Where a question can be answered with a 'strongly' or a 'moderately' it's a thin line between which one might tick but the 'moderately' scores closest to the centre and the 'strongly' takes you towards the corners.

Being a person of stout opinion I scored right in the corner. Others with a similar political outlook might be a bit to the north-east of me. (Like the Green Party) :)
I've emailed them asking for clarification. I accept there may be some slight overlap but it is quite a move, considering the only difference is a slightly different location.
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With the election only a few weeks away, it now seems likely we'll have Labour / SNP coalition... which would likely make Alex Salmond deputy PM!
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clv101 wrote:With the election only a few weeks away, it now seems likely we'll have Labour / SNP coalition... which would likely make Alex Salmond deputy PM!
Well, I don't think there's anything set in concrete about the largest partner in a coalition supplying the PM. They may decide between them that AS would make the better statesman. AS could even make this a condition of any coalition, supported by those in Labour who are embarrassed by the presence of EM. Wouldn't be the first time the UK had a Scottish PM. :lol:

ETA: Maybe AS has seen this coming, or it has been part of the Master Plan. I always thought it was a bit fishy the way he so promptly stood aside after the referendum.
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Caroline Lucas would make a good Deputy PM. :)
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Latest YOUGOV poll

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YOUGOV Voting intentions aged 18-24
 Labour 37%
 Greens 23%
 Conservatives 23%
 UKIP 7%
 LIBDEMS 7%
 SNP / PC 3%

 But 23% Don't Know/Won't vote
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PS_RalphW wrote:Latest YOUGOV poll

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YOUGOV Voting intentions aged 18-24
 Labour 37%
 Greens 23%
 Conservatives 23%
 UKIP 7%
 LIBDEMS 7%
 SNP / PC 3%

 But 23% Don't Know/Won't vote
That last 23% looks suspiciously low.
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Post by AutomaticEarth »

This has got to be worth a look when it airs....

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 46787.html

As for the country being in meltdown? Not likely, UKIP would most likely be true-blue Tory a la Thatcher style, not the totalitarians they are portrayed to be. Certainly not great, but hardly likely to cause total meltdown IMHO.

At the end of the day, Farage et al is likely to be a party for the corporations /rich, so UKIPs policies on immigration are likely to be watered down somewhat.
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You haven't seen his behaviour in the European Parliament then?
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biffvernon wrote:You haven't seen his behaviour in the European Parliament then?
Yes, but that's all bluster. Wait till he's leaned upon by all concerned - he'll soon change his tune.
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Post by AutomaticEarth »

Interesting comments from Noel Gallagher :lol:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... -time.html

You can take his comments with a pinch of salt, but what he's calling for is effectively proportional representation (which we decided against IIRC).

His comments about everything going wonky after 9/11 were a bit surprising.
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There's a link to a poll on that page which asks which party you side with.

Mine came out as UKIP 81%, BNP 72%, Labour 68%, LibDems 65%, Conservatives and Green 63%. I definitely wouldn't vote for the first four choices and I'm tossing up between the next two. I might vote for my current MP rather than his party but I'm not sure about that at the moment.
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Hmm.. I came out; labour 90%, libdem 83%, green 82%, SNP 76%, Conservative 46%.

A little surprising, as I'm actually a SNP member!

The thing is, alignment with policies isn't necessarily an indicator of voting intent. I would never vote labour, despite supporting many of their policies, because I simply don't trust that they would be implemented. Even with three consecutive terms with an overall majority, they still managed to get side-tracked by political correctness, ideology and geo-political ambitions, rather than just getting on with the job of running the country more effectively.
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90% Green 9% Conservative :)

Hmmm.... not quite sure why I didn't get 100% Green in this one. There must have been an ambiguous question somewhere. :)
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