McCain defends Obama

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McCain defends Obama

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_ ... 665238.stm

Anyone would think he didn't want the job or something :)
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Ludwig wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_ ... 665238.stm

Anyone would think he didn't want the job or something :)

I saw those clips on youtube.
I think even John McCain is embarrassed by the idiots that support him.
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I honestly think McCain doesn't want the job from that video.

Perhaps he's had a wake up call.

Why anyone would want to be president of the USA I dont quite know.

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chris25 wrote:I honestly think McCain doesn't want the job from that video.
I know, I was being serious!

I wonder if America is on the verge of being ungovernable. It's so big and there isn't the social or physical infrastructure to keep it going in the face of economic collapse. Everything that holds it together is predicated on affluence.

One possibility seems to me that it will become, over time, effectively a group of city states.
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I think even John McCain is embarrassed by the idiots that support him.
I agree - he has to be.

When people get up and say that Obama is an Arab, and imply that obviously all arabs are terrorists, how can you fail to be embarassed!?

What was Mcain supposed to do when that lady asked that question?

Can you imagine him saying something along the lines of "Yeah, Obama is an arab, suicide bombing, al qeuda supporting raghead! - vote for me!"

The sad thing is , if he had - the crowd probably would of cheered! :shock:

He definetely wants the job IMO.
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McCain defends Obama... and now Colin Powell backs him!!
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Erik wrote:McCain defends Obama... and now Colin Powell backs him!!
Colin Powell was frozen out of things by the Neocons. He didn't want to invade Iraq (telling, his being a military man - Heaven forbid that someone with military experience should have a say in whether America went to war). He has a lot of enemies in the Republican Party. Far too much of a good egg IMO ever to have been involved with those bandits.

I must say, disregarding his silence regarding actual policies, Obama does seem to me a man with something about him. Of course I think his presidency will lurch from one disaster to another, but there's not a lot that can be done about that.
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Ludwig wrote:I must say, disregarding his silence regarding actual policies, Obama does seem to me a man with something about him.
I agree. Also policies will change, indeed might have to change (hey Obama is all for "change" anyway), but Obama's apparent cool-headed character will hopefully remain a constant.
Ludwig wrote:Of course I think his presidency will lurch from one disaster to another, but there's not a lot that can be done about that.
It's a tough time to be taking on the world's toughest job. Then again, Bush is hardly a tough act to follow...
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If McCain is Cheney's puppet, who's puppet is Obama?
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the only problem I see with Obama is that he might make FDR look like a
free market politician, he is very left wing so expect bigger gov & higher taxes exactly when the US cant afford it, as the old saying goes it was capitalism on the way and socialism on the way down
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SILVERHARP2 wrote:the only problem I see with Obama is that he might make FDR look like a
free market politician, he is very left wing
I can only think of two US politicians that the description 'left wing' fits, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, 10th District of Ohio and Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. American politics as a whole really only has a middle, a right wing and an even righter wing.

I don't think 'very left wing' applies to any of them, compared with, say, some of the naughty boys like Derek Hatton, who used to infest the Labour Party.

Obama doesnt look any more 'left wing' to me than the young Mr & Mrs Clinton did, when they first entered the White House full of zeal to reform the American healthcare system. Never happened, of course. Obama will be similarly constrained by economic realities. (I'm assuming that America will not elect a geriatric pre-senile cancer patient with an anger management problem, but you never know!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich
and an example of a Congresswoman from the 'even righter wing'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SQTxxkdSIs
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McCain and Palin withdraw. GOP's new candidates seen as renewed threat to Obama's presidential ambitions
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Iz it coz ee iz black?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a4CaggJflak

Classic! Ali-G would be laughing hysterically at this!
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skeptik wrote: Obama doesnt look any more 'left wing' to me than the young Mr & Mrs Clinton did, when they first entered the White House full of zeal to reform the American healthcare system. Never happened, of course. Obama will be similarly constrained by economic realities. (I'm assuming that America will not elect a geriatric pre-senile cancer patient with an anger management problem, but you never know!)
maybe given that Bush is nationalising the banking system, terms like left and right have little meaning these days. H Clinton would have been very similar, expansion of gov, social welfare progs, higher taxes, maybe he will be more pragmatic
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