Caroline Lucas on BBC Question Time tonight

What can we do to change the minds of decision makers and people in general to actually do something about preparing for the forthcoming economic/energy crises (the ones after this one!)?

Moderator: Peak Moderation

peaky2
Posts: 188
Joined: 20 Sep 2007, 00:10

Caroline Lucas on BBC Question Time tonight

Post by peaky2 »

Caroline has done much to raise the issue of PO whenever she can and with what's been in the news recently she may well have the opportunity to do so this evening.

The panel includes Labour MP and chief whip Geoff Hoon, Conservative MP Eric Pickles, historian Dan Snow, and climate change denier Ruth
Lea.
"[The Transition Movement is] producing solutions, not a shopping list for suicide" - Rob Hopkins
mididoctors
Posts: 9
Joined: 29 Apr 2006, 13:34
Location: london/lake district

Re: Caroline Lucas on BBC Question Time tonight

Post by mididoctors »

peaky2 wrote:Caroline has done much to raise the issue of PO whenever she can and with what's been in the news recently she may well have the opportunity to do so this evening.

The panel includes Labour MP and chief whip Geoff Hoon, Conservative MP Eric Pickles, historian Dan Snow, and climate change denier Ruth
Lea.
Have you (or anyone) a means of reminding her?

Boris
London
mididoctors
Posts: 9
Joined: 29 Apr 2006, 13:34
Location: london/lake district

Post by mididoctors »

I emailed her and her press officer with some useful material concerning reasons for rising prices

never know till you try etc

Boris
London
Initiation
Posts: 93
Joined: 18 Jan 2008, 13:29

Post by Initiation »

Well hopefully it will be one of the questions they debate tonight, always watch anyway, hopefully someone will mutter the words 'peak oil'.
User avatar
emordnilap
Posts: 14814
Joined: 05 Sep 2007, 16:36
Location: here

Post by emordnilap »

Initiation wrote:Well hopefully it will be one of the questions they debate tonight, always watch anyway, hopefully someone will mutter the words 'peak oil'.
With output from the main suppliers falling, the term 'peak oil' is so pass?.

What are we now? Post peakers? Slippery slopers? Nice descent people?
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Aurora

Post by Aurora »

Well said Caroline. :)

Shame she didn't get just a little bit longer to elaborate though.
User avatar
UndercoverElephant
Posts: 13498
Joined: 10 Mar 2008, 00:00
Location: UK

Post by UndercoverElephant »

Didn't see it. Was watching Jonathon Porritt KICK ARSE on Newsnight.

:lol:
User avatar
lancasterlad
Posts: 359
Joined: 22 Jun 2007, 06:29
Location: North Lancashire

Post by lancasterlad »

Just watching it online here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00bv4qy.shtml

Update - well worth a watch. Caroline did well. There was also an economist on who said "the age of cheap oil is over - we will have no choice but to change our lifestyle"
Lancaster Lad

Who turned the lights off?
User avatar
clv101
Site Admin
Posts: 10554
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Contact:

Post by clv101 »

It was the closest Question Time has got to talking about peak oil, Caroline slightly fluffed the actual peak oil bit and I suspect anyone who didn't already know about peak oil wouldn't have understood.

The economist was very sensible on our current situation.
peaky2
Posts: 188
Joined: 20 Sep 2007, 00:10

Post by peaky2 »

clv101 wrote:It was the closest Question Time has got to talking about peak oil, Caroline slightly fluffed the actual peak oil bit and I suspect anyone who didn't already know about peak oil wouldn't have understood.

The economist was very sensible on our current situation.
I agree :( Caroline was 90% but somehow didn't quite say it right. I'm not sure why as she's been eloquent enough on it before, but she did good and refreshing to see a question time where most of the questions were actually sensible. The last time I watched they panel spent about 20 minutes discussing whether Harry or William should have worn a Nazi armband.
"[The Transition Movement is] producing solutions, not a shopping list for suicide" - Rob Hopkins
User avatar
Bandidoz
Site Admin
Posts: 2705
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Location: Berks

Post by Bandidoz »

lancasterlad wrote:Just watching it online here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00bv4qy.shtml

Update - well worth a watch. Caroline did well. There was also an economist on who said "the age of cheap oil is over - we will have no choice but to change our lifestyle"
I thought it was interesting that when Ruth said it, she was very calm and matter-of-fact about it, and perhaps got across better. Caroline was talking a bit too quickly in a bit of a panicky, excitable manner; Dimbleby didn't help by frequently interrupting her.
Olduvai Theory (Updated) (Reviewed)
Easter Island - a warning from history : http://dieoff.org/page145.htm
User avatar
Totally_Baffled
Posts: 2824
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Location: Hampshire

Post by Totally_Baffled »

I watched this, I have to say I was suprised by the audience comments.

I was expecting more sort of petrolprices.com comments - for example " rip off Britain, oil company conspiracy blah blah blah"

But actually the comments were more along the lines of , ok the tax is high , but the frustrating thing is we have nothing to show for it.

In fact, one of the biggest rounds of applause was for Carolines comments about investing the tax revenue from petroleum (windfall tax on oil companies and fuel duty) in a decent public transport alternative.

Very surprising!
TB

Peak oil? ahhh smeg..... :(
Keepz
Posts: 478
Joined: 05 Jan 2007, 12:24

Post by Keepz »

Totally_Baffled wrote:
In fact, one of the biggest rounds of applause was for Carolines comments about investing the tax revenue from petroleum (windfall tax on oil companies and fuel duty) in a decent public transport alternative.
Do those who advocate windfall taxes on companies when they do well, also advocate tax breaks when they do badly?
User avatar
Totally_Baffled
Posts: 2824
Joined: 24 Nov 2005, 11:09
Location: Hampshire

Post by Totally_Baffled »

Keepz wrote:
Totally_Baffled wrote:
In fact, one of the biggest rounds of applause was for Carolines comments about investing the tax revenue from petroleum (windfall tax on oil companies and fuel duty) in a decent public transport alternative.
Do those who advocate windfall taxes on companies when they do well, also advocate tax breaks when they do badly?
I thought big oil did get big tax breaks....?

Isnt the NS one of the lowest tax regimes in the world.....?
TB

Peak oil? ahhh smeg..... :(
Keepz
Posts: 478
Joined: 05 Jan 2007, 12:24

Post by Keepz »

Totally_Baffled wrote: I thought big oil did get big tax breaks....?

Isnt the NS one of the lowest tax regimes in the world.....?
Nope; it's one of the highest.
Post Reply