sketch of more accurate model of UK politics

[UndercoverElephant]

https://imgur.com/a/iBQEFVG

[clv101]

Nonsense view of Plaid. There is a sizeable fraction of Plaid that overlaps with the Tory circle. Plaid is a loose coalition of two quite distinctive groups, there's the 'Leanne Wood' progressive Plaid but there is also the small-c conservative, land owning rural Plaid in the North and West. This second cohort absolutely don't sit in the top left corner with the Greens!

[UndercoverElephant]

Nonsense view of Plaid. There is a sizeable fraction of Plaid that overlaps with the Tory circle. Plaid is a loose coalition of two quite distinctive groups, there's the 'Leanne Wood' progressive Plaid but there is also the small-c conservative, land owning rural Plaid in the North and West. This second cohort absolutely don't sit in the top left corner with the Greens!

OK fair enough, I don't know much about Plaid.

[BritDownUnder]

Labour is very conveniently at the Origin where all the votes are presumably. What happened to state ownership of the means of production?

[UndercoverElephant]

Labour is very conveniently at the Origin where all the votes are presumably.

Not for much longer, I suspect.

What happened to state ownership of the means of production?

That's communism.

[BritDownUnder]

Labour is very conveniently at the Origin where all the votes are presumably.

Not for much longer, I suspect.

Where are they (Labour) or the voters going then?

What happened to state ownership of the means of production?

That's communism.

Clause 4 is a bit more muddled and got changed by TB.

Before TB...

To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service

After TB...

The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few, where the rights we enjoy reflect the duties we owe, and where we live together, freely, in a spirit of solidarity, tolerance and respect.

I am a bit sceptical from a party that Corbin and Abbott were high level members of.

[UndercoverElephant]

Labour is very conveniently at the Origin where all the votes are presumably.

Not for much longer, I suspect.

Where are they (Labour) or the voters going then?

According to Yougov, 29% of Labour voters were tactical -- they were people who really wanted the Greens, Libdems or Reform to win, but voted Labour because Labour were best placed to defeat the tories and they prioritised getting rid of the tories ahead of voting for what they actually believe in. There is now absolutely no point in those people continuing to support Labour. Firstly the tories are no longer a credible threat, partly because their seat total has been reduced so far and partly because the right is now split, as shown in the diagram. Secondly, all of those people want electoral reform and Labour is currently point blank refusing to accept this. How can they put pressure on Labour to commit to electoral reform? Answer: withdraw their support, until Labour's poll rating falls sufficiently far that their majority at the next election disappears. From a purely game theory point of view, it makes no sense for anybody who wants electoral reform to tell the pollsters they would vote Labour in a future election. In fact, even firm Labour supporters who want electoral reform -- and there are lots of them -- should rationally tell the pollsters they would vote for a party that supports electoral reform, and all three of those mentioned will repeatedly point this out to people.

Labour's huge majority wasn't the result of them being in the centre and that's where all the votes are. It was the result of a hugely unfair voting system which usually benefits the tories and always benefits the two big parties in a 2-party system, so this time benefited Labour because so many people were desperate to get rid of the tories. If Labour is serious about "national renewal", electoral reform is absolutely necessary. They will make all sorts of excuses why this is not so, but they won't work.

I am a bit sceptical from a party that Corbin and Abbott were high level members of.

Labour has vacated the political territory of Corbyn and Abbott. That is another one of the reasons why its vote share is so low and likely to go lower -- there are millions of people who still believe Corbyn and Abbott have the answers, and in future they are much more likely to vote for the greens or smaller far left parties than for Labour.