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Costing the Earth
Posted: 16 Apr 2009, 14:01
by Adam1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00jm3l3
A good programme with a contribution from Mike P.
Did anyone hear this?
Posted: 16 Apr 2009, 14:48
by monster
Yes I heard it, just looked at the webiste of the company about to build the post talbot biomass 350MW plant
www.prenergypower.com
What seems a real shame is that they are NOT going to use the waste heat from burning the biomass so the plant will only have an efficiency rating of just 36%
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what a wasted opportunity to provide district heating to port talbot..............
Posted: 16 Apr 2009, 21:47
by mikepepler
Pictures to accompany the broadcast...
http://peplers.blogspot.com/2009/02/rad ... ew-us.html
They were an interesting pair, and after the recording was done we chatted about about peak oil and the like. Will be interesting to see if I sowed the seeds of something there, they were certainly receptive.
Posted: 17 Apr 2009, 22:34
by Andy Hunt
monster wrote:What seems a real shame is that they are NOT going to use the waste heat from burning the biomass so the plant will only have an efficiency rating of just 36%
![Crying or Very sad :cry:](./images/smilies/icon_cry.gif)
what a wasted opportunity to provide district heating to port talbot..............
I would be surprised if anyone gives a toss about the people of Port Talbot. It would certainly be something new.
Posted: 18 Apr 2009, 03:34
by kenneal - lagger
The DTI, as it used to be, have identified that there will be a huge problem heating UK housing in the future. Unfortunately they haven't identified the fact that insulation levels in UK buildings, both new and existing, are lousy. Nor have they identified the fact that power stations dump 66% of the energy they produce up the cooling tower chimney in the form of waste heat.
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A Cambridge economics graduate did the research on the heating problem. What do they teach them? Obviously, not much common sense. One person does a study on the economic thickness of insulation to install and one does one on the amount of heat required to keep the country warm. Neither talks to each other nor compares results so the obvious conclusions aren't reached.
So we have Kingsnorth and Port Talbot and half a dozen others being built as stand alone power stations wasting 66% of their energy. We're run by idiots, highly qualified idiots. ':shock:'