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David King
Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 22:37
by biffvernon
Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 23:04
by woodburner
Maybe not at peak demand yet, but I understand this is hapening:
He said that the role of gas in future would be much reduced, with the fuel providing only a back-up service in power generation, turned on at periods of peak electricity demand and then turned off again in favour of renewables and nuclear power.
Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 07:45
by biffvernon
Yes, King understands climate change but in search of straws to clutch, still believes in the nuclear fairy.
Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 13:16
by woodburner
Unfortunately it can deliver more than the wind fairy or the "let's cover the fields in solar panels" fairy. All the systems have their faults.
Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 15:33
by kenneal - lagger
Renewables' faults aren't long lasting as nuclear faults.
Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 15:34
by biffvernon
woodburner wrote:Unfortunately it [nuclear] can deliver more than the wind fairy
That's certainly a fairy tale, or you're a troll.
Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 16:17
by clv101
woodburner wrote:Unfortunately it can deliver more than the wind fairy...
What do you mean by "can deliver"? In the UK, for the last couple of days wind power has been delivering more than nuclear.
In 2012, globally renewables (ex hydro) were close to half the output of nuclear and growing at around 15%, wind growing closer to 20%. Nuclear output on the other hand is shrinking (-6.9% in 2012). Renewables, driven by wind are expected to exceed nuclear's output within a few years.
Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 17:44
by biffvernon
And when wind stops working it's called a Nice Day.
Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 19:13
by woodburner
clv101 wrote:woodburner wrote:Unfortunately it can deliver more than the wind fairy...
What do you mean by "can deliver"? In the UK, for the last couple of days wind power has been delivering more than nuclear.
Does this include the electricity imported from France?
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 13:17
by RenewableCandy
"Renewables' faults are many,
nukes have only two:
everything they say
and everything they do!"
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 13:36
by clv101
woodburner wrote:clv101 wrote:woodburner wrote:Unfortunately it can deliver more than the wind fairy...
What do you mean by "can deliver"? In the UK, for the last couple of days wind power has been delivering more than nuclear.
Does this include the electricity imported from France?
Yeah, the interconnect maxes out around 2GW.
Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 19:52
by biffvernon
The Interconnector from Holland will be delivering mainly wind generated electricity and so will that from France on windy days when Denmark and Holland are both exporting.