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Denier exposed!!!!

Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 17:46
by eatyourveg
I wouldn't have believed it, but it must be true

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/b ... aron-cohen

Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 18:16
by Bandidoz
LMFAO I'd love to see Monckton's response :D

Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 20:04
by biffvernon
Brilliant!

Other amusing Monkton videos are available such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDubnFU3 ... re=related

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 04:23
by kenneal - lagger
This is an extract from the Wikipedia entry for Monckton
After a presentation by Monckton at Bethel University (Minnesota) in October 2009, Professor John P Abraham[40] of University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) produced a rebuttal to Monckton's claims. John Abraham investigated the origins of many of the claims by contacting the authors of those papers Monckton had cited[35][41][42] and found that "he had misrepresented the science".[42] Monckton responded to Abraham's statement soon after, stating, "he looks like an overcooked prawn", and expressing the view that Abraham had repeatedly misquoted him to third-party scientists and had then obtained understandably hostile comments from them, which he had improperly used against Monckton. John Abraham's responses to Monckton's criticisms were that Monckton "dealt with a small number of very peripheral issues", and that it did not address the "many serious scientific lapses which were present in your [Monckton's] presentation". [43]

Monckton "initiated the process of having Abraham hauled up before whatever academic panel his Bible College can muster, to answer disciplinary charges of wilful academic dishonesty amounting to gross professional misconduct unbecoming a member of his profession",[44] and asked that Abraham's talk be removed from the University servers, and a donation of $10,000 and $100,000 be made respectively by Abraham and the University to the "United States Association of the Order of Malta for its charitable work in Haiti".[45][46] The university responded that "The University of St Thomas respects your right to disagree with Professor Abraham, just as the University respects Professor Abraham's right to disagree with you. What we object to are your personal attacks against Father Dease, and Professor Abraham, your inflammatory language, and your decision to disparage Professor Abraham Father Dease and The Univerity of St Thomas"[47][48], and it refused all of Monckton's demands.[49]
It's very interesting that, apart form having his views completely shot down after misrepresenting the science, he resorted to ad hominem attacks on his detractors. The bloke's either stupid or a liar and I think I know which one he is.

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 08:47
by An Inspector Calls
Has the Guardian come to this! Well, you must be losing the global warming argument.

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 13:53
by kenneal - lagger
Apologist to the rescue! And such a succinct argument as well.

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 14:23
by An Inspector Calls
What's so pathetic about this is that it's not even remotely funny. There's one 'joke' (oh how we laughed): Monkton doesn't know who SBC is - and that's it. At least a bunch of schoolkids might have had a dig at Monkton's appearance.

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 14:47
by kenneal - lagger
The point is that Monckton is a laughing stock anyway amongst all but the Denier fraternity for his complete lack of understanding of any science at all and his tantrums when he is fully rebutted, as he often is. This case just adds to the hilarity.

If you chose to take him seriously and come to his aid you can imagine what that does to your reputation on this site.

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 15:28
by An Inspector Calls
I'm quite capable of making my own valuation of Monkton, which I haven't discussed here. And that's of no consequence either.

But the Guardian article and the film is just so pathetic, plus the feigned glee of the CAGWers all go to warm the cockles of hearts amongst 'the deniers'.

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 17:25
by kenneal - lagger
So you think Monckton is a pratt as well, do you?

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 18:54
by An Inspector Calls
Is your only repartee smart-arsing?

Posted: 04 Nov 2011, 07:43
by 2 As and a B
Time to delete this and the last few posts, methinks.

Posted: 04 Nov 2011, 07:44
by 2 As and a B
"Did you get that in Thailand?"

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