Planned Somerset nuclear plant on hold ? or not ?

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So how much land and tree saplings planted would the £billion they've spent so far have bought?
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Ireland weighs in!
The National Trust of Ireland has begun a legal challenge against the UK government over its decision to approve a new nuclear plant in England.

The plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset was granted planning permission by the Energy Secretary, Ed Davey, last month.

However, the trust (known as An Taisce in Irish) has said the Irish people should have been consulted before the UK government granted approval.
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RenewableCandy wrote:Ireland weighs in!
The National Trust of Ireland has begun a legal challenge against the UK government over its decision to approve a new nuclear plant in England.

The plant at Hinkley Point in Somerset was granted planning permission by the Energy Secretary, Ed Davey, last month.

However, the trust (known as An Taisce in Irish) has said the Irish people should have been consulted before the UK government granted approval.
I'm a member of An Taisce; they can be a vociferous bunch and this is just the sort of thing they enjoy. Fair play to 'em.
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EDF Energy chief executive Vincent de Rivaz said: “The completion of Fallago Rig demonstrates how EDF Group companies can deliver major infrastructure projects on time and on budget.
Well, it's a windfarm, innit.

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The government must be expecting the talks to collapse which is why they're so keen on fracking. The gas will provide us with a local source of fuel for electricity generation.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:The government must be expecting the talks to collapse which is why they're so keen on fracking. The gas will provide us with a local source of fuel for electricity generation.
Frightening!
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Now approved by EU.
Source is breaking news on BBC news website at about 11-15 on 08/10/2014.

Not certain if this means that it will be built, or if this is simply the go ahead for other studies, consultations or enquiries.
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I think the Austrians are going to challenge it, and then there's Greenpeace with their legal experts, plus a group of energy experts whom I vaguely know who seem quite on-the-ball. And no-one's mentioned the Germans yet.

Also, there were some extra terms. I don't know what the EdF guys'll make of those.
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Hinkley Point nuclear plant to cost £24.5bn
That's a lot of money for 7% supply. I wonder how much it would cost to deploy enough efficiency savings to cut demand by 7%?

Also - with this latest price hike, new nuclear is in the same ballpark as the Severn barrage, which lasts twice as long!
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More good news from Hinkley
For all the trumpeting of a nuclear renaissance, Hinkley still looks to be as distant and expensive as ever.
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I said it would never be built.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-30125622

Certainly not a foregone conclusion according to this report.
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Strictly confidential - for the Secretary of State

As requested, we've researched three options to provide c. 7% of total UK electricity demand by 2025 at the latest:

A barrage on the Severn Estuary.
2 new nuclear reactors at Hinkley Point in Somerset.
20 GW of renewable electricity generation capacity on UK farms.
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Here's the Farm Power report:
http://www.forumforthefuture.org/Farm_Power

A no-brainer really.
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