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Haven't time to read this, but might be interesting for some of you...

http://trec-uk.org.uk/press.htm#press_release_1
New report shows how Europe can make deep cuts in CO2 emissions and phase out nuclear power at the same time

Energy mix to include solar power from deserts.

A new report, commissioned by the German Government, shows in detail how Europe (including the UK and Ireland) can meet all its needs for electricity, cut emissions of CO2 from electricity generation by 70% by the year 2050, and phase out nuclear power at the same time.
The key to this revolution in electricity supply is the replacement of old polluting power plants that rely on dwindling supplies of fuel with a larger range of non-polluting sources of energy that will be good for thousands of years.

In the scenario described in the new ?TRANS-CSP? report, the need for imported sources of energy will be reduced and this, coupled with the increased range of sources of energy, will help to ensure the resilience and security of energy supplies.

But an important part of the proposals in this report and the earlier ?MED-CSP? report is the development of a collaboration between countries of Europe, the Middle East and North Africa (EUMENA) to take advantage of the truly monumental quantities of energy that fall as sunlight on the world?s hot deserts.

?Every year, each square kilometre of desert receives solar energy equivalent to 1.5 million barrels of oil. Multiplying by the area of deserts world-wide, this is nearly a thousand times the entire current energy consumption of the world.? said Dr Franz Trieb, Project Manager for the two reports.
?We can tap in to this energy by using mirrors to concentrate sunlight and create heat. The heat may be used to raise steam and drive a generator in the Trans-Mediterranean Renewable Energy Cooperation (TREC)
conventional way. This kind of ?concentrating solar power? (CSP)?which is very different from the better-known photovoltaic ?solar panels??has been producing electricity successfully in California for nearly twenty years.

?The cost of collecting solar thermal energy equivalent to one barrel of oil is about US$50 right now (already less than the current world price of oil) and is likely to come down to around US$20 in future.

?Contrary to what is commonly supposed, it is entirely feasible and cost-effective to transmit solar electricity over long distances. With modern high-voltage DC transmission lines (HVDC), only about 3% of the power is lost for each 1000 km. In round figures, this means that solar electricity could be imported from North Africa to London with only about 10% loss of power. This compares extremely favourably with the 50% to 70% of losses that have been accepted for many years in conventional coal-fired power stations.

?We have calculated that solar electricity imported to Europe would be amongst the cheapest sources of electricity, and that includes the cost of transmitting it. CSP imports would be much less vulnerable to interruption than are current imports of gas, oil and uranium.?
Collaboration amongst countries of EUMENA would create substantial benefits. For all the countries it would mean a plentiful supply of inexpensive pollution-free electricity and the creation of jobs and earnings in a large new industry.

For countries in North Africa and the Middle East it can also mean the creation of fresh water by the desalination of sea water using the waste heat from CSP. This can have a major impact in alleviating shortages of fresh water in those regions, a problem that is likely to be made worse by climate change, as highlighted recently by Sir David King, Chief Scientific Advisor to the UK Government.

In addition, the areas under the solar mirrors of CSP plants are relatively cool and protected from the harshness of direct tropical sunlight?which means they can be useful for many purposes including horticulture using desalinated sea water.
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The idea has some merit I think, it just hasn't been practical in the past. Maybe there have been some big advances in HVDC, it is certainly being used in China to span long distances and link parts of their national grid without forcing the whole thing to be synchronised.

There is the issue of making enough solar PV though - aren't the existing factories running flat out already?
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Just a quick note to say this is an offshoot of the club of Rome.
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mikepepler wrote:There is the issue of making enough solar PV though - aren't the existing factories running flat out already?
Think you must have skipped through this - they're using CSP not PV, so presumably the silicone refining capacity bottleneck isn't an issue here.

However, does Europe really want to shift from exploitation of Middle-Eastern Arabs' oil to exploitation of North African Arabs' solar resources, with all the geopolitical implications this entails?
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That's the biggie Joe.

This would require nothing less than a paradigm shift in international relations to be feasible.
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Joe wrote:
mikepepler wrote:There is the issue of making enough solar PV though - aren't the existing factories running flat out already?
Think you must have skipped through this - they're using CSP not PV, so presumably the silicone refining capacity bottleneck isn't an issue here.
Correct. I'd not realised it was a thermal version.
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One of these "trough" solar energy plants is planned for Aachen, that's not exactly Northern Africa but Northern Germany. It's funny to note that this plant will be standing on the grounds of the former nuclear science center......

There are several more plants planned to be connected to the Paneuropean grid. Spain and Italy (the construction work has already started) are front runners, Europes first plant of this type was build in Spain more then a decade ago.The deserts are coming to Europe b.t.w..
The advantage of this type of energy production is that it can create a lot of power at peak demand time, in any place that has direct sunshine. Also in England. And at peak demand time the conventional power plants are not able to deliver their peak productivity. Because the deserts are coming to Europe as said above, i.e. the climate is changing and therefore the cooling water is not available for the conventional power plants.
And with the time (zone) differences in Europe we have different peak demand times, spreading over 2-3 hours when seen in the EU context. And that is a lot of economical potential for solar power feeding into the grid.
Today for example it's blasting sunshine in Southern Europe but raining here, meaning there is plenty of sun in Europe to be harvested for the general public.
And the "Chunnel" costs just taxpayers subsidies/money, why not using it for power lines instead ?
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