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Are YOU a terrorist?

Posted: 09 Nov 2008, 23:21
by Andy Hunt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... -first-elf
Police have warned of the growing threat of eco-terrorism after revealing they are investigating a group which has supporters who believe that reducing the Earth's population by four-fifths will help to protect the planet.

Officers from a specialist unit dedicated to tackling domestic terrorism are monitoring an eco-movement called Earth First! which has advocates who state that cutting the Earth's population by 80 per cent will ease pressure on other species. Officers are concerned a 'lone maverick' eco-extremist may attempt a terrorist attack aimed at killing large numbers of Britons.

The National Extremism Tactical Co-ordination Unit, which collates intelligence and advice to police forces, has revealed that eco-activists are researching a list of target companies which they believe are major polluters or are exacerbating the threat of climate change.

The unit is currently monitoring blogs and internet traffic connected to a network of UK climate camps and radical environmental movements under the umbrella of Earth First!, which has claimed responsibility for a series of criminal acts in recent months.

A senior source at the unit said it had growing evidence of a threat from eco-activists. 'We have found statements that four-fifths of the human population has to die for other species in the world to survive.

'There are a number of very dedicated individuals out there and they could be dangerous to other people.'

Earth First! says its mission is 'about direct action to halt the destruction of the Earth' and advocates 'civil disobedience and monkeywrenching', tactics that include sabotage and disruptive behaviour. The movement has links to US environmental extremists which have waged a campaign of violence in America, including the firebombing of a string of 4x4 car dealerships in California in 2003 and alleged arson attacks on other property.

The anti-extremist unit has already alerted a number of major companies which have been accused of being carbon polluters with advice on how they can withstand being targeted by eco-terrorists. Companies are thought to include airport operator BAA, an international mining conglomerate BHP Billiton and firms connected to UK coal-fired power stations.

'They are doing research of possible targets, looking at shareholders and financiers. For example, they could research an airline and see how many of its aircraft are not environmentally friendly,' said the NETCU source.

Although green extremists have yet to embark on an orchestrated campaign of violence in the UK, officers warn that they may be about to launch a campaign of intimidation and fear aimed at disrupting businesses. 'For some people, if they can justify it in their minds, then it's a noble cause even if it's a criminal action. They haven't started yet, but we believe they will come up with a strategy and tactics,' said the source at the unit, who described the movement as well-funded and organised.

A spate of recent attacks, for which Earth First! supporters have claimed responsibility, has included vandalism of branches of seven German banks such as Deutsche Bank and Allianz AG. The actions were apparently because the banks hold shares in UK Coal, which plans to build new coal-fired power stations.

A statement on the Earth First! website explains the attacks by saying: 'Exploitation of the environment and people by the state and industry go hand in hand. They cannot be separated and both must be attacked. Social war, not climate chaos.'

Another attack hit a quarry in Staffordshire which belongs to Bardon Aggregates, a company hat also owns a controversial quarry at Glensanda on the north-west coast of Scotland. The Scottish quarry is accused of spoiling the Highlands environment. The Earth First! website states: 'We slashed tyres, stripped paint jobs, glued locks and trashed conveyor belts. All the earth movers were hit and many of the cement and aggregate trucks. This action cost us very little but should cost Bardon thousands.'

Among the network of groups under the Earth First! umbrella are various climate camps. Last August police found a stash of knives and weapons beside one such camp in Kent. Protesters, however, said they had nothing to do with the weapons and accused police of launching a 'smear campaign'.

A spokesman for Derby Earth First! said the movement was strictly non-violent, if not always law-abiding. He said: 'If someone does ecological damage we would perhaps break the law and protect the ecology, but the ecology also includes humans.

'We're all about communities. Capitalism is the problem and we want to return to a more sustainable time. But we are not about reducing the population, that is just scaremongering by the police.'

The rise of eco-extremism coincides with the fall of the animal rights activist movement. Police said the animal rights movement was in 'disarray' and that its ringleaders had either been prosecuted or were awaiting prosecution, adding that its 'critical mass' of hardcore extremists was sufficiently depleted to have halted its effectiveness. Last Thursday a prominent animal rights activist accused of planting petrol bombs at Oxford University was cleared of possessing an explosive substance with intent.

Reports on the Earth First! Journal website, which tells users how to send encrypted emails, reveals connections to the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) which has been linked to a series of violent attacks in the US. ELF was classified as the top domestic terrorism threat in the US by the FBI in March 2001.

The ELF was founded in 1992 in Brighton by members of the Earth First! movement who wanted to form a breakaway group that would use more extreme tactics.
Population reduction coming up, under the guise of 'eco-terrorism'? Do YOU look like an eco-terrorist?

How many people on this forum have advocated population reduction as the only way to sustainability? :shock:

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 00:37
by Billhook
Given that the planet cannot afford the load of 100 million Americans,
but could afford that of over a billion Tibetans,
the idea of the population being the threat is plainly a distraction from the real culprit:
namely the ideology of highly decadent consumption.

Which makes this latest police scan into a farce built on a well-promoted delusion.

Regards,

Billhook

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 01:48
by kenneal - lagger
For example, they could research an airline and see how many of its aircraft are not environmentally friendly,' said the NETCU source.
That shows their level of ignorance in environmental matters.

It sounds like the police are setting out their ground for even more massive and violent disruption of Climate protests. TPTB are obviously getting very worried about the continuation of growth in this country.

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 08:46
by Bozzio
kenneal wrote:
For example, they could research an airline and see how many of its aircraft are not environmentally friendly,' said the NETCU source.
That shows their level of ignorance in environmental matters.

It sounds like the police are setting out their ground for even more massive and violent disruption of Climate protests. TPTB are obviously getting very worried about the continuation of growth in this country.
And with MP's now calling for media censoring of matters of national security and police operations it certainly looks like they are expecting civil unrest.

MPs seek to censor the media

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 10:21
by Andy Hunt
Maybe the way is being paved for a new generation of non-CCS coal-fired power stations.

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 10:22
by eatyourveg
As time goes by it may become apparent that there MUST be a die off.
What better way to get it done than via an 'external threat'

Deja vu anyone?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 11:03
by JohnB
When I read that article, my first impression was how easily it could be rewritten to be aimed against TPTB. Surely they are the eco-terrorists, not "us".

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 11:29
by PS_RalphW
I have considered, as an academic exercise, which industrial/infrastructure locations could be most easily disabled to maximum effect to bring resource/energy depletion to the forefront.

Unfortunately, the impact would be negative because it would be impossible to get the message across without it being smeared as simple brain dead ecoterrorism by the media.

Since I started thinking about it the sites have had security beefed up.

It would require a level of organisation, resources and intelligence far in advance of my abilities to be effective.

MI5/6 take note.

As far as the population/industrialisation arguement, I think both are critical factors in our population overshoot. We cannot sustain 6 billion without industrial agriculture, and we cannot sustain industrial agriculture.
Human nature will trump Buddhist self deprecation on a global scale.
Historically speaking, until the 18th Century, human global population has always been limited by resources and disease. It is inevitable that we will return to that condition sooner or later. The argument that sanitiation, health care, education and female emancipation will resolve the issue has been lost.

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 12:22
by RogerCO
According to apparently well informed comments elsewhere (not on the electric interweb) the article is almost certainly a plant by TPTB probably as part of a softening up process for the introduction and acceptance of further control measures.

As noted before if eco-action develops into throwing spanners into the works of the BAU machine it will most likely be from lone individuals acting independently (if synchronistically).

As noted before the current system is incredibly fragile in some respects - and incredibly resilient in others.

Expect to see much more like the article referenced above over the coming months, especially after the general election next spring.

The time is drawing near.

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 12:59
by SILVERHARP2
This is all very fringe stuff? There will always be some rag-tag groups that will want to further its aims with petty vandalism/terrorism , given that the populations in Britain / US must as some know that they were sold a pup with the war on terror I think it would be difficult to raise a new bogeyman that turn out to be a bunch of misguided hippies

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 13:39
by RenewableCandy
Oh come ON...it's a Quantum Of Solace p!ss-take!

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 17:49
by johnathome
they are investigating a group which has supporters who believe that reducing the Earth's population by four-fifths will help to protect the planet.
That'd be the Bilderberg Group then :roll:

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 20:04
by kenneal - lagger
johnathome wrote:
they are investigating a group which has supporters who believe that reducing the Earth's population by four-fifths will help to protect the planet.
That'd be the Bilderberg Group then :roll:
Or the Bush/Cheney government? they've already started in Iraq and Afghanistan. Looks like they've missed out on Iran though.

Re: Are YOU a terrorist?

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 21:43
by Bandidoz
Andy Hunt wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... -first-elf
Police have warned of the growing threat of eco-terrorism after revealing they are investigating a group which has supporters who believe that reducing the Earth's population by four-fifths will help to protect the planet.
Population reduction coming up, under the guise of 'eco-terrorism'? Do YOU look like an eco-terrorist?

How many people on this forum have advocated population reduction as the only way to sustainability? :shock:
Hey it's all gone a bit Caldwell! -> http://www.foundationwebsite.org/canam4x.htm

Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 21:50
by Bandidoz
Police have warned of the growing threat of eco-terrorism after revealing they are investigating a group which has supporters who believe that reducing the Earth's population by four-fifths will help to protect the planet.

Officers from a specialist unit dedicated to tackling domestic terrorism are monitoring an eco-movement called Earth First! which has advocates who state that cutting the Earth's population by 80 per cent will ease pressure on other species. Officers are concerned a 'lone maverick' eco-extremist may attempt a terrorist attack aimed at killing large numbers of Britons.

The National Extremism Tactical Co-ordination Unit, which collates intelligence and advice to police forces, has revealed that eco-activists are researching a list of target companies which they believe are major polluters or are exacerbating the threat of climate change.

The unit is currently monitoring blogs and internet traffic connected to a network of UK climate camps and radical environmental movements under the umbrella of Earth First!, which has claimed responsibility for a series of criminal acts in recent months.

A senior source at the unit said it had growing evidence of a threat from eco-activists. 'We have found statements that four-fifths of the human population has to die for other species in the world to survive.
Doesn't this all look completely disjointed? There's a group stating the obvious about competition for resources, and at the same time, there's a group targeting polluters. Where's the connection?