Russia-in-secret-plot-against-fracking-Nato-chief-says
Posted: 20 Jun 2014, 00:46
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This annoys me. You could not be bothered to make a comment based on the content or even cut and paste a quote from the piece that might spark some interest? If you don't care why should I?
Here you go:vtsnowedin wrote:This annoys me. You could not be bothered to make a comment based on the content or even cut and paste a quote from the piece that might spark some interest? If you don't care why should I?
I particularly like Andrew Pendleton's response!Russia is secretly working with environmental groups campaigning against fracking in an attempt to maintain Europe's dependence on energy imports from Moscow, the secretary-general of Nato has said.
Speaking at the Chatham House foreign affairs think-tank in London, Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Russia was mounting a sophisticated disinformation campaign aimed at undermining attempts to exploit alternative energy sources such as shale gas.
He said: "I have met allies who can report that Russia, as part of their sophisticated information and disinformation operations, engaged actively with so-called non-governmental organisations - environmental organisations working against shale gas - to maintain European dependence on imported Russian gas. That is my interpretation."
Rasmussen comes across as an absolute lunatic.Greenpeace dismissed Mr Rasmussen's comments as "preposterous".
A spokesman said: "Greenpeace had thirty of its people locked up in Russian prisons last year, threatened with fifteen years in jail.
"The idea we’re puppets of Putin is so preposterous that you have to wonder what they’re smoking over at Nato HQ.
"Mr Rasmussen should spend less time dreaming up conspiracy theories and more time on the facts.
"Fracked gas will probably cost more than Russian imports, there’s little chance fracking will generate more than a small fraction of Europe’s gas needs and it won’t even do that for at least ten years.
"Greenpeace has detailed plans for energy policies which would remove the need for any Russian gas imports to Europe entirely."
Andrew Pendleton, the head of campaigns at Friends of the Earth, said: “We’ve consistently urged the Government to end our dependence on dirty fossil fuels from abroad by developing Britain’s home-grown renewable energy.
“Perhaps the Russians are worried about our huge wind and solar potential, and have infiltrated the UK Government.”
The Department of Energy and Climate Change said it will not be commenting on the matter.
No.vtsnowedin wrote:So Greenpeace thinks the UK can build enough windmills to replace natural gas?
"Greenpeace has detailed plans for energy policies which would remove the need for any Russian gas imports to Europe entirely."
Andrew Pendleton, the head of campaigns at Friends of the Earth, said: “We’ve consistently urged the Government to end our dependence on dirty fossil fuels from abroad by developing Britain’s home-grown renewable energy.
Yes! Especially since the Chinese agreed to invest in our infrastructure.emordnilap wrote:No.vtsnowedin wrote:So Greenpeace thinks the UK can build enough windmills to replace natural gas?
Well I can't act as a spokesman for Greenpeace, but windmills aren't the only way to harness renewable energy.vtsnowedin wrote:So Greenpeace thinks the UK can build enough windmills to replace natural gas? I think they are the ones that need to spend more time with the facts.They probably need to invest in a new abacus as well.
The quote above specifies imported NG from Russia. Apparently importing it from Qatar is less of a problem in their eyes.emordnilap wrote:No. Besides, which NGO are you referring to specifically?
The appliances and lights in your home and workplace still work on oh so last centuries ways. Provide the UK's consumption of 375,000 GWH on just renewables? I have to doubt that at least in the near term.RenewableCandy wrote:Baseload, as a concept, is so last century.
As for running the grid on renewables, it can (just!) be done, bearing in mind things like interconnectors to Ireland and the Continent, and Drax running on biofuels (which admittedly has its own issues, but having to import gas from Russia isn't one of them).