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http://www.texassharon.com/2013/09/15/i ... -colorado/

From an email.

I see you’ve noticed the underwater wells in Weld County, Colorado. Amazing; we’ve emailed the Denver TV stations, other media, and state and local politicians. We’ve sent pictures that our members have taken. It’s like the media and politicians have been TOLD not to say anything about it. There has been no mention of the gas wells on the Denver newscasts either last night or this evening although all stations have had extensive and extended flood coverage. You can see underwater wells in the background of some of the newscast videos, and yet the reporters say absolutely nothing.

Here’s a picture one of our members took yesterday in Weld County, Colorado. We’ve got tons more on our website. Check it out. The tanks are tipping and, in some cases, have fallen over. They have to be leaking toxins into the flood waters. There have to be hundreds if not thousands of underwater well pads in Weld County as a result of the flooding.

Please publicize this in Texas since our media people and politicians have gone silent!

https://www.facebook.com/EastBoulderCountyUnited

East Boulder County United
Lafayette, Colorado

As in the picture I posted in the flood watch thread at http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/forum/vie ... 456#243456

None of this has anything to do with tracking. Overturned oil tanks happened during the Ohio floods a few years back as well, it happens when the tank batteries are overtopped by flood waters. Certainly the well has nothing to do with the problem, its the tanks holding some oil or brine tipping over which cause the problem.

A fuel storage tank overturned?

That's your 'fracking disaster'?

Not a word about the millions of gallons of fuel and heating oil that will be lost from farms and homes or the damage caused by flooded cess pits and sewage works.

No wonder people have a hard time believing the claims of activists.

JavaScriptDonkey wrote:A fuel storage tank overturned?

That's your 'fracking disaster'?

That's it. They did a break down of all the leaks on the news a day or two back and there wasn't a frack job in sight. Just an old oil field, each well having a tank here or there and when the flood waters hit, they tilted, moved around as they were lifted, and the moving tank broke off the line pipe which connected them to the surface separator.

Just from aerial footage alone you could see that, and in other cases the tanks tipped all the way over and dumped their contents.

The lies the MSM DOESN'T tell, and then the hysteria others try and generate around it....

JavaScriptDonkey wrote: Not a word about the millions of gallons of fuel and heating oil that will be lost from farms and homes or the damage caused by flooded cess pits and sewage works.

Actually, e coli in the local water supplies did make the news as well. Raw sewage, people needing HazMat suits to just walk through the water. What didn't make the news was the agricultural run off, the fertilizers and chemicals used on the farms which no one thought to ask about.

JavaScriptDonkey wrote: No wonder people have a hard time believing the claims of activists.

Since when does activism have anything to do with an honest evaluation of the facts of the matter? Activism is being a missionary for your point of view, converting the heathens to thinking about things the "right" way, in other words, THEIR way. Right, wrong, that has nothing to do with it.

On the raw sewage and E.coli issue find the back of an envelope and try doing some arithmetic with the amount of rain that fell and the amount of sewage that got washed out to work out plausible concentrations.

I did this for a flood we had in my area a while ago and concluded that I would quite happily go for a swim (if it were warmer).

biffvernon wrote:On the raw sewage and E.coli issue find the back of an envelope and try doing some arithmetic with the amount of rain that fell and the amount of sewage that got washed out to work out plausible concentrations.

I did this for a flood we had in my area a while ago and concluded that I would quite happily go for a swim (if it were warmer).

Is it just me, or is it hysterically ironic that those complaining about news blackouts on things which don't exist might not be bothered in the least by things which did happen and can certainly kill people, and the recommendation is that "the solution to pollution is dilution"?

The reason why there is a news blackout on fracking spills is because there were none, and the problem is human waste, chemicals from peoples garages, and bacteria of all sorts I imagine.

And apparently the calculations of risk by those who do this for a living isn't the same as those who don't.



http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/colorad ... s-20299523


Transcript for Colorado Flood Waters May Be Receding, But Danger Remains

Now the latest on the floods in colorado where the flood waters are receding but rescuers have gun to put on hazmat suits. Why? Abz meteorologist beginning error zee is right there with them.
Reporter: Suiting up and going in. State police in evans, colorado braving the contaminated waters in full hazmat gear. Sounds like the sewage system has been compromised.
We don't want to take any chances. Reporter: The health hazard growing, the water infested with chemicals, sewage and bacteria as the flooding recedes. This is the first day we can see the road and sidewalk.
Reporter: Crystal and mark brothe, waiting for fema to assess the safety of their neighborhood. We know there's raw animal waste, chemicals from people's garages Reporter: They did get in briefly sunday to save their pets, and it wasn't pretty. The smell was so strong in our house, the fumes set off our carbon monoxide and smoke detector.

I'd be much more worried about agrochemicals and other stuff the the sewage. Did you find a spare envelope back. I gather getting on for half a million cubic metres of rain fell per square kilometre. Trouble is that some pesticides are still dangerous at a few parts per million.

biffvernon wrote:I'd be much more worried about agrochemicals and other stuff the the sewage. Did you find a spare envelope back. I gather getting on for half a million cubic metres of rain fell per square kilometre. Trouble is that some pesticides are still dangerous at a few parts per million.

As you should well know Biff it's not about how many bacteria are floating about in the flood water so much as how many have managed to get in to your drinking water.

Completely 100% natural and bio-degradeable deer poop is one source of such nasties. Shall we refer to it as natrochemicals?

Would deer poop be a distribution agent for tuberculosis by any chance?

Now people consider that it is coming on winter and water temperatures in streams and rivers are going below 40 degrees F and bacteria grow very slowly in such cold temperatures and people get hypothermia if they spend more then a few minutes in water at those temps. The chances of a person spending enough time in such water to get infected by what bacteria remain will diminish daily. The concern should be directed to what residual contamination will remain next spring, both chemical and biological, but winter will really limit the biological segment of that problem.
And yes dilution is a solution, and a flood does do a good job of diluting much of what it spills and carries it all the way out to sea. Tough luck for the estuary at the mouth of the river though.

woodburner wrote:Would deer poop be a distribution agent for tuberculosis by any chance?

|Deer yes, poop no, afaik, if you're thinking of the British bovine TB problem.

As I understand it, it is the nosing around in cow poo where badgers pick it up. So why not deer?

Bovine TB is spread primarily through the exchange of respiratory secretions between infected and uninfected animals. This transmission usually happens when animals are in close contact with each other.

http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/hot ... 43.article

Not a lot to do with poo!