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Anyhing Thatcher did we can do worse:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... tations-uk

Twenty new gas-fired power stations are likely to be built in the UK, amounting to a massive increase in consumption of the fossil fuel, the climate and energy secretary, Ed Davey, has told the Guardian.

But Davey insisted the expansion – the biggest construction effort in the power sector for decades – would not harm the prospects for investment in renewable energy or in the government's carbon reduction targets.

He said: "I strongly support more gas, just as I strongly support more renewable energy. We need a big expansion of renewable energy and of gas if we are to tackle our climate change challenges."

Spot the fail.

biffvernon wrote:
Spot the fail.

They didn't include building more nukes.

AnOriginalIdea wrote:

biffvernon wrote:
Spot the fail.

They didn't include building more nukes.

We have a winner.

AnOriginalIdea wrote:

biffvernon wrote:
Spot the fail.

They didn't include building more nukes.

Haven't they reclassified nukes as renewables or something?


Peter.

Big article in todays Times about this.

Definatly a new dash for gas.
Forget the enviroment, the sheeple have got to have cheap gas and electricity.
It has been previously been stated that the carbon intensity of electricity production was to be greatly reduced by most new generation being renewable or nuclear.

A loophole has been found to avoid this commitment.
It is suggested that carbon emmisions from electricity generation could be exempted on the grounds that new technology might in the future reduce emmisions from other sectors of the economy such as transport.
Hydrogen powered trucks being mentioned as an alternative.

All very ill considered. Hydrogen trucks will in effect be electricly powered or natural gas powered, so not much benifit there !

Leaving aside the enviroment which is probably a lost cause in any case, this new dash for gas still seems most unwise.

From where is all this gas to be obtained ?
And at what price ?
And what about the nimbeyfests regarding all the new gas import terminals, storage facilities, and pipelines ?
And are they aware that increasing the gas burnt for power generation will increase the price to far beyond todays levels, thereby leading to price increases.

And I supose they have allowed for a large scale re-armanent program and expansion of our armed forces to protect UK interests in gas producing regions ?

adam2 wrote:Forget the enviroment, the sheeple have got to have cheap gas and electricity.

That sums it up.

Why are UK gas prices increasing?

Has UK gas production really HALVED since its peak in 2000 then ??

Good graph, Chris. Can you explain what you mean about becoming a net importer in 2004? I can't figure that one from the graph. Thanks.

Blue line is NET imports. It crosses the zero axis from negative to positive in 2004.

Ah. Right.

I think.

emordnilap wrote:Good graph, Chris. Can you explain what you mean about becoming a net importer in 2004? I can't figure that one from the graph. Thanks.

The blue line is imports (or exports) and it read against the right hand axis. Before 2004 it was negative meaning we were exporting, after 2004 it's positive meaning imports.

Eventually.